Speculation - Javy Vazquez to Mets?

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  1. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Struggling Vazquez to the Mets? (link)
    While some are floating the idea of a skipped start, maybe a more drastic move might be more appropriate for a troubled Yankees starter. There's a perfect solution to the Javy Vazquez problem in the Bronx: trade him to the Mets and everyone comes away happy. Think about it. For the Mets there's just no getting around the obvious -- they're going to need another starter to parlay their hot couple of weeks into serious contention this season. ... And while Vazquez is a mess mentally trying to overcome his issues pitching with the Yankees, put him back in the National League and he'd likely go right back to being a dependable starter, if not the Cy Young contender he was last year.

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  2. IATA

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    Yes, because switching to the METS makes him a CY YOUNG candidate again?

    Rediculous.
     
  3. desert swordz

    desert swordz Totally Addicted

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    We'll give you GMJ for Vazquez.

    Pitching back in the NL and at Citi would be very beneficial to him.
     
  4. jgangstahippie7:18

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    One of my friends brought up Javy and stuff for F-Mart. Actually he said Javy for F-Mart straight up, but that wouldn't happen.
    GMJ must bet better than Winn.
     
  5. guinness77

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    I usually like this guy's writing, but it's kind of absurd to suggest this swap when he offers no explanation on what it would take the Mets to get Vazquez. The Yanks aren't just going to give him away, and what are the Mets going to give up? I wouldn't think they're willing to give up a F. Martinez or a Mejia for someone like Vazquez. Harper: if you're going to speculate, at least lay out a scenario on how it can happen. Because, I don't see one. You couldn't trade GMjr. for a Sammy Sosa rookie card right now.
     
  6. Jake

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    I'd rather wait it out and see if he regains the lost velocity on his fastball or just turns it around. He's looked bad, but it's still early.
     
  7. JackBower

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    hahaha What are they Mets smoking no way this would ever happen. Beyond stupid.

    O wait who's their GM, never mind (Kazmir for Zambrano).
     
  8. guinness77

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    Minaya is far from the best GM, but that was Jim Duquette who made that ridiculous trade.
     
  9. JackBower

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    Ahhh correct, my bad.
     
  10. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Watch the Yankees trade Vasquez back to the Braves and watch him dominate the division again.

    Put him in the National League, and he'd be one of the better pitchers in the game. Put him behind Santana, and your rotation is much, much better.

    Javy's value sucks now, but the way Hughes is pitching, they could move him up and maybe make Joba the #5.

    That said, I don't know what the Mets would give up that the Yankees would want, especially now with his value down.
     
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    The AL may be better than the NL but it's not that big of a difference where a scrub leaves the American league and instantly becomes a cy young candidate. I think his heads fked right now.. Maybe he can't handle the new York media/ fan pressure
     
  12. jonnyd

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    the Yankees are rolling right now. There is no reason i nthe world to trade Vasquez. We can afford months of letting him try to find himself again. Trade him for GM jr? ahhaha for what purpose?
     
  13. desert swordz

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    Lol, when I typed trade for GM Jr, it was a complete joke, as Gary Matthews absolutely sucks, has no value, and would not be enough to acquire Vazquez.

    I don't think the Yanks sell on Vazquez now, especially considering his value has taken a hit with his past few outings. For the Mets, getting a consistent innings eater with good stuff like Vazquez would be exactly what we need. I don't think it's going to happen though.
     
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    gotcha. Yeah you guys could certainly use the type of guy you described. Most teams do. But ike you said, JV to the Mets aint happening. I dont think JV to anyone is happening. Not for a long time anyway.
     
  15. GQMartin

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    jonny is right...Vazquez's value right now is tarnished.

    Also, 4 of 5 of the Yankees' starting rotation are pitching lights out. The team can afford to sit on Vazquez.
     
  16. desert swordz

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    To be honest ANY team in the league could use a pitcher of Javy's calibur, but I don't think many teams NEED a pitcher like Vazquez more than the Mets do.

    See, the Mets have a GM who's completely comfortable with going into the season equipped with a starting staff consisting of Johan, and 4 question marks. This is for a team that's expected to compete. On most nights we're lucky if our starter pitches longer than the 5th inning.
     
  17. Cappy

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    Yeah, this would be the worst possible time to try to trade Vazquez. Of course, if he figures it out (I have to assume he will at some point, as long as he's not hiding an injury), he'll then be valuable to the team, with no reason to trade him.

    i.e. Vazquez probably isn't going anywhere.
     
  18. Jetfanmack

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    The difference is big enough where a Cy Young candidate from the NL (Javy Vasquez) can go to the AL and become a scrub...

    Vasquez's attitude is fine by all accounts. It's just a matter of turning that into production.

    Any way you slice it, Vasquez would be at worst the Mets' 3rd best starter, and that's only if you trust Pelfrey.
     
  19. ace_o_spades

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    yea i'm thinking no matter wat he's on the team this year
     
  20. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    From watching him pitch, it looks like his front shoulder is flying open too early. This can lead to a loss in velocity and location, two things he's suffering from right now.

    Unfortunately, if that is the case, it's a pretty tough mechanical thing to fix. Hopefully the extra bullpen session helps
     

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