Year after year when crunch time comes we have had NOBODY to make the BIG stop. Yesterday was the same watching NE eat up the clock in the 4th quarter making 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion was really terrible to watch & as a fan of this very disgraceful to see. Maybe I will have to move back my projection from 2010 to 2012 or later before we have reached up ti the elite in the NFL. Another question why did not put Mangini put in Ramsey to throw the hail mary instead of allowing weak arm CP to take the last snap. Also why did our OC call 2 short passes in that last series when we had no TOs & you know the Pats would be defending the sidelines & EZ?
Because no one can throw the ball 90 yards. If they take away the EZ and SL, then you have to throw it ITMOTF.
You answered your own question. The Pats were defending the deep side line pass. The two short passes over the middle allowed them to move into position for a hail mary. They needed 25 yards to get in position for the hail mary and by going short up the middle it allowed them to spike the ball and stop the clock while setting up the hail mary. On the hail mary they made a decission to put Smith out as a WR on a tip play. It might have been better to put Ramsey in but why do it. Chad is the leader of this team right now. Good bad or indifferent we lost that game before that play, Chad deserved to be out on the field with the team.
H'mm if I remenber correctly we needed someone who could thrw the ball about 65 yards from where the LOS was on that last play. Go check it out yourself. You sound like are paid hack of the NYJs to make excuses for them on this board.
Sorry there was no time for a 20 yard completion then the hail mary. Check it out yourself. Well when you have a QB who cannot throw the ball 65 yards then you have to go to option B since the job of every HC is do EVERYTHING to win the game. While I am not saying the hail mary would have been successful but at least you have to give it the shot as it was your only chance at that time to tie the game.
They had 15 seconds left, they could've tried for a 15-20 yard sideline pass if that was open, or a quick 10 yarder over the middle and then ran up and spiked the ball. There was no need to throw the Hail Mary when they did.
Totally disagree. They didn't have time for a 10 yarder up the middle and a sideline pass in that situation is suicide.
If all you take away from that game is to say they are the SOJ's then you are blind and will never be happy. They showed about as much heart as it is possible to show. They don't have the talent the Pats have, and they still put up one hell of a fight. Their defense simply did not have the talent to keep up with the Pats when there were killing the clock. Lighten up, and root for the future.
It would've been close on a pass over the middle, but realistically they had a 0% chance of getting to the end zone from where they were with 1 throw.
Champ, even you have to admit that if we were in the same situation last year, we would have been totally disgraced. I think last year would have lost 30-3 under the same circumstances. This year we have improved. We are clearly better this year than last and we are better coached. Mangini has the team attempting to play 60 minutes of football. We knew going into this we were not going to win every game. We had a very small chance at victory yesterday at the end of the game, but that was all it was. The bottom line on yesterday's game was Chad running out of bounds at the end of the half to stop the clock and then the super shank by Graham that only went 10 yards. That one major sequence of mistakes proved to be the deciding factor against NE. To beat NE you must play near perfect football. That is just the way it is. I am still satisfied with our performance even with the L. To say SOJ is wrong, IMO.
Look in the ultimate end when you have a D that gives up 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion allowing them to run the clock down in the end it really does not matter since we deserved to lose based on the performance if our O & D lines. I also noticed that as the Pats were storming Brick side he was yanked for some time. I naturally thought right away about what ESPN analyzed about him & speed rushers.
Yes, it was a tough day defensively. NE did burn a lot of clock at the end of the game. We were defending against 3 pretty darned good running backs and a HOF QB. We can't expect us to dominate that kind of squad at this time. We must be fair.
No sorry what happen happen cause our O & D lines were totally DOMINATED by NE O & D lines. To me if we lose 41-0 or 24-23 it makes NO difference since it is a LOSS. No we are no better then last year when we allow the other side to make 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion allowing them to run down the clock makes them no different then any previous years team which also allowed the same thing to occur.
You do realize Ramsey, without warming up, would probably just hurt himself? You don't just go into a game, and throw a ball 60+ yards in the air without warming up. Our OC did not call short passes... There were 8 men 25+ yards deep!
We disagree on this one. It was the lack of depth on our Defensive line and at LB that allowed NE to eat up the clock and our timeouts. This game was lost in the trenches not by the coaching staff or the players on the field. We don't have the horses yet. Football games are rarely perfectly played. We made a few mistakes but the killer is the personal in the trenches on both sides of the ball. NE has them and we don't.
I thought the pass protection was adequate yesterday. The run blocking however was a different story. And you're right that the Jets are not in the Pats league, but I think most of us knew that coming into the game. On defense I think the 3rd down conversions were a symptom of the poor DL play, allowing NE to pick up 5 yards consistently on 1st downs, allowing for relatively easy 3rd and short conversions. It is a little disappointing to see the same old no pass rush/no cover defense though.
Why not? We got 2 1st round draft choices on the OLine right? You did notice that Brick got yanked cause Seymour was beating him up so badly did you not? I do not know if you watched the Bflo game but I did as well as last week vs NE & I will tell you they have one hell of of a D & if we do not block better better pay our medical premiums now cause we will be dropped with all the players we will be sending to the hospital after that game.
