wow skip bayless loves Tebow: http://espn.go.com/blog/playbooksounds/post/_/id/735/joe-budden-talks-tebow-on-first-take
Stephen A is 100% correct.....as a prototypical NFL QB, he's trash....but as a specialty package player, he'll produce. He's a football player, not a starting calibre QB.
Everything Skip said was correct right there. I can't believe the other two clowns, the way they carry on.
Me.....he'd need to completely revamp his throwing motion, something he's shown either unwilling or incapable of doing to date. His mechanics right now, aren't something that can be improved with coaching......otherwise they'd be fixed (or at least improved) already. His passing ability may incrementally increase, but he's never going to be a successful passing QB, the way he currently throws.
Tebow's "random instances of good accurate passes" is akin to the proverbial blind squirrel occasionally finding the proverbial nut. What is the purpose of a backup QB? Isn't he supposed to be ready in case the starting QB gets hurt? Well, QBs get hurt running the ball, and yet it appears that that's going to be a big part of Tebow's role. So what happens if he gets hurt in a game running the ball and then Sanchez gets hurt? McElroy? There's a reason that guys who are used in wildcat/option plays are the #3 QBs NOT the backups. DOH. I agree. Since he had this issue even going back to HS, it's unlikely that he's going to change it.
I have a few issues with the statements that were made here. Number one I completely disagree with the idea that his mechanics are not something that can be fixed. Tim's delivery is what cannot and should not be fixed his throwing motion or the natural progression of taking the ball from start to release. Many of Tim's problem lay in the fact that he opens up his front shoulder too early and ball sail or he over adjusts and throws balls into the ground. Both of these can be worked on in Training Camp and will be ad nauseum. Another flaw with Tebow is connected to his front shoulder as well. His front landing foot flies open as well. All of these problems can be addressed and worked on. His drops also will be worked on. All of these are related to mechanical issues with his throwing. I also disagree with anyone that speaks in absolutes. Never is an extremely long time. I have no problem with commentary that suggests that you dont believe he will be successful, but to say it is guarantee he will never be successful the way he currently throws is in my opinion not only a strange comment, but has already been proven wrong. You may not like him as a QB but he has won as an NFL QB and won a playoff game as an NFL QB. He may become a better player. He was also just named one of the top 100 players in the NFL. That seems to point to me that well he has been pretty successful. All though this is a bit of semantics or splitting hairs if you will. I just dont understand when people speak in absolutes as if they can see the future. Just my two cents anyway.
This about says it. Especially the second paragraph, but as we know the hype gets in the way of the football aspect of things. I think the best approach to Tebow (as a Jets fan) is to be impartial until there are some tangible results of his success or non-success in a Jets uniform.
Successful? Really? I suppose, it all depends upon how you define "success". I think Matt Moore and Colt McCoy have been at least as successful since both have better numbers than Tebow while playing on much worse teams, but hey, we all know that "hype" obscures Tim's on-field greatness.
Im talking about his success on the Jets, as in his ability to run the wildcat. As impartial as I try to be, there is no way I want to see him as a starting quarterback.
Success in all cases is based on winning. In both the cases you mentioned those quarterbacks are not winning. I am sure someone at this juncture will mention what about Trent Dilfer. Was he successful the year he won a Super Bowl? In short my answer would be yes. Does that make him a great quarterback? No. I also believe most football fans without bias would say if no names were involved that this situation would be considered a success. The backup quarterback replaces the starter after a 1-4 start. The said team has been in a complete freefall over the past 2 season. The backup quarterback then goes 7-4 as a starter and gains a playoff birth. The team then wins a playoff game in what happens to be the quarterbacks second year. Most football fans would define this season as a success, but because that quarterback is Tim Tebow people have issues.
It is not that black and white and has nothing to do with Tebow. That QB was rated dead last in the league amoung QBs. That QB lead the league in 3 and outs. That QB consistently won games scoring 15-17 points. That QB lost the last 3 regular season games and backed in the playoffs due to a horrible division. That QB did not beat a winning team. Just like Trent Dilfer and the Ravens going how many quarters without scoring a TD, the team won, but it was not like That QB was playing well.
