The title says it all...would you consider double dipping on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL Draft? I think there is a good chance they go after some offensive players prior to the draft so I am starting to see this as a realistic option. What say you? I hope you consider checking out the video!
As of now I don’t see it. I think the Jets go heavy in the secondary in FA along with finding a starting guard and a TE and several depth signings as usual. I believe they draft KT if he’s there at #4. But #10 will either be traded down or used on Trevor Penning or possibly a WR. Just my two cents
Thibodeaux and Lloyd to transform the D. Then go offense on day 2. BTW, I don't expect this to happen, but I can understand the logic behind it.
We should not only consider it, but expect it. What we need to stop considering is using a 1st on another WR.
I don't think you can make absolute declarative statements about who we should draft unless you need a QB. that's the one position that the first pick has to be used on if you're in a position to get your guy. Beyond that, a lot depends on FA and who gets taken ahead of you, and on information that most of us aren't privy to. For example: we need a stud Edge, but as things unfold, are we sure that taking an Edge at 4 is the best use of that pick? We need a #1 WR, but is there one that will be there at #4 or #10 that's worth those picks, or can we get as good (or better) with a later pick? So, given what I know at this point, while it would make me grit my teeth, yes, it's possible Douglas might double dip on "D" in the first round.
Maybe not the first but they will most likely take one - maybe the second round. A very deep class and the Jets need another one. Even if Barrios is resigned.
Penny. Good thread. A lot will depend on how FA will shape up and how the draft will fall. Say Hutchinson, Keyvon Thib and Hamilton are all gone with the first 3 pick. Which other Defensive play will you pick at 4? Draft Neal and move on right? And uncertainty is bigger for pick #10. I am a firm believer of Future Hall of Fame potential regardless of the position. My heart is set as below. Pick Hamilton at #4 if he is there and pick Linderbaum at 10. But I won't be close to the idea of Hamilton plus Lloyd or Sauce Gardner if Linderbaum is gone.
It’s possible if KT falls to 4 and Sauce falls to 10 they do that but I doubt those 2 scenarios play out
Absolutely it should be considered. If the Jets have addressed some of the bigger offensive needs in FA and there are good day 2 options to draft it might even be the best way to go.
If the board falls that the bpa is defense on both picks do it. That’s better than reaching g for a lesser offensive player. We have 9 picks in the top 5 rounds. Plenty of chances to add good offensive players too.
The jets should chose the best players at premium positions and not think twice, especially with 2 high 2nd round picks to help balance the roster if both first picks end up on the same side of the ball. Premium positions are CB, ER, OT and perhaps WR. Get any 2 of those in the first round and that’s outstanding imo. If I were gm, I’d be praying that Thibs makes it to 4 and Gardner makes it to 10. I’m a huge fan of Sauce, and I’d take him at 4 as well, over stingley.
Hell, trade down and take three defensive players. I don't care what we take as long as the value is there.
After FA this talk of 2 defensive players will die down imo I am a "one from Column A and one from Column B " guy NOT 2 from same column considering the many needs of a lowest of the low Franchise. Overloading on one side of the ball doesn't make sense here with those 2 first round picks...and it won't be like we had no choice at each spot
The real issue is the offense was ignored for so long (and when not ignored bad drafting) that it’s going to take a couple of drafts to get up to par. Last year was a great start - but the O still needs another I’d say at least 5 starters. And the defense is historically bad. So when a team in the Jets situation has two top 10 picks I don’t think the wise thing to do is to dump both into the same side of the ball. Let’s see how FA turns out. JD may help both sides there and then draft according to remaining need and talent at each position.
At this point, EVERYTHING should be considered except trading up. If one doesn't look at all one's options, that when one can miss an opportunity or make a mistake. Sometimes fortune or luck or whatever you want to call it smiles on you and you get an opportunity that you may not have considered, and then you aren't prepared or don't have time to take advantage of that opportunity. I trust JD, so will accept whatever he does, although I could be disappointed, but don't think I'll be upset or confused. I think probably the only way I'd be upset is if he takes Stingley or Karlaftis. Taking both of them would probably have me apoplectic, however. Right now, I think I would be very happy with any of the following (in no uncertain order): #4 KT #10 Sauce Gardner #4 Ickey Eckwonu #10 David Ojabo or Jermaine Johnson #4 KT or Eckwonu #10 Garrett Wilson If Burks isn't the WR I thought he was, then I'd almost rather the Jets wait until pick #35 and take Christian Watson if he's rated that highly. At least he's tall, fast, and extremely athletic
It depends on free agency. I want oline in the first round regardless of free agency. That said it does make sense to draft two defensive players as opposed to just one. That way you'll have close to a complete unit at the end of the draft. I do not endorse the plan as i want o line but it makes sense. What does drafting a safety without a dlineman or a dlineman without a safety do? Drafting both you have a pretty good wall.
I think the D was only historically bad because players were adjusting to/learning the new scheme, all the injuries we had to key starters, and so many rookies/young players seeing major minutes. Zach still needs to be the #1 priority, but it is said that most of the top prospects in this draft are D players. That doesn't exactly work in our favor in terms of timing with wanting to see major progress from Zach this season and wanting to build around him, but it could work out surprisingly well. It could force JD to spend more $ on the offense in FA, or he might go D in the 1st round and get two players that will be huge difference makers for our D, and then wind up getting two very good offensive players in the 2nd round that we otherwise may not have taken. I do think if he goes D with both 1st round picks, that he almost has to use both 2nds on offense. The lone exceptions to that would be if he was unable to sign a FA S that he really wanted or if a great D prospect that was better than any offensive player at that point, even when considering need and priority of positional importance, surprisingly fell to us. That said, under NO circumstances should all 4 of the top picks be used on D, I don't care if every single FA $ went to the offense.. Ideally, they'll be used 50-50 one pick each for offense and defense in each of the first two rounds. EDIT: About the only way I wouldn't be upset if all 4 of our top picks were used on D would be if JD managed to sign Njoku (I think I heard Schultz is going to be tagged), Allen Robinson or Amari Cooper, and James Daniels in FA AND the 4 draft picks were KT, Sauce Gardner, Lloyd or Dean, and one of Dax Hill, Jalen Pitre, Jaquan Brisker, and Lewis Cine. Then in the 3rd-5th rounds he took Jeremy Ruckert, OT depth, OG/C depth, a RB, and another TE or WR. Of course, if he managed to do that, I think we could just go ahead and put JD in the HOF.
