?I don?t see it, I just don?t see it. What makes Jay Cutler a first round selection? I refuse to list him as the 3rd best QB in this class? ?Vernon Davis is the best receiver available. Forget TE?s, he?s the best receiver in this draft. Think Owens, Moss and Holt wrapped up neatly and placed in a genetically engineered body? ?Vernon Davis is not dumb when you are talking to him ? he just does not have a good base of football knowledge or really understand how to convert routes. ? There?s a big difference between scouting and looking at numbers (production, height, weight and speed). Davis may have better numbers than (Jeremy) Shockey and (Kellen) Winslow (Jr.), but he is not nearly as refined of a pass catcher as either were coming out. Go back and watch Davis and show me one catch he makes where he does not have to stop to bring in the ball. No one can deny his physical ability, but he?s got a lot of work cut out for him.? ?Alan Zemaitis reminds me of (2005 Colts first-rounder) Marlin Jackson. He?s very instinctive.? ?Has anyone watched Chad Jackson play? If you did and you still have him on your board as 1st round pick I suggest you watch one of his games not against marginal compition.? ?I know there are some scouts who have first-round grades on Richard Marshall, but I don?t know what they are looking at. He?s stiff. He will play, but I don?t ever see him being more than just a guy in the league. I have him graded in the third round.? ?If we had the 1st pick we would already have Mario Williams signed and sporting our gear. Reggie Bush would not even be an option. Great player but he?s no Mario Williams? ?I watched four games of D?Qwell Jackson yesterday. I love his football temperament, instincts and the way he plays the game, but I do not like his foot speed. This is not the 1980s anymore. He is a liability vs. the pass.? ?I spent the better part of 3 days reviewing tapes of Haloti Ngata. 2 of the days were spent trying to find him. I wish I had a job that I could show up for when I felt like it.? ?Bernard Pollard is very active. He has good instincts. He plays fast, has good man cover skills. He can mirror a quarterback and break on throws. He is a playmaker. He?s a second-round talent.? ?Pat Watkins shows some situational toughness, but he is so long and gangly. That concerns me.? ?I went back and watched more of Brodrick Bunkley. He is a mean sucker. Wow! You put on the North Carolina tape, and he is a man. I haven?t seen anyone kick the (crap) out of his opponents like he does in a long time.? ?John McCargo made Mario Williams what he is now not the other way around. I would have a real hard time taking any DT over McCargo. He has everything your looking for? ?Donte Whitner is the last guy moving. His angles are bad. He can cover on the short end but not on the top end. He?s (Patriots 2005 fourth-round pick) James Sanders. He has no instincts. He is aggressive, tough, can close to the ball. He?ll hit you and support the run, but I didn?t like his key and diagnose. He?s not a half safety. You need some special goggles to evaluate if you think he?s a half safety. He?s choppy in his movement. He can run and he?s fearless, but he?s not Bob Sanders moving at the snap. And little safeties wear down.? ?I don?t know what the deal is. I?m not going to bad mouth him (Jimmy Williams) if I don?t know the whole story. Part of me wants to tell him to take a year off and get his head on straight. Figure out what he wants in life before he?s thrown into a world he can?t handle. The other part of me wants to kick him in the teeth.? ?I can?t cosign on drafting Anthony Smith because he?s only 194 pounds. (Bengals 2004 second-rounder) Madieu Williams wore down at 190 pounds and has not been able to stay healthy. It?s going to be the same issue.? ?Chad Greenway should think about a career change. I wonder if he can kick? It?s his best chance to avoid contact? ?Marcus McNeil passed our physical. He never missed any time. He doesn?t tuck his tail and get in and up on (defenders) like you want him to, but he?s not a major medical risk in the eyes of our doctors.? ?Johnathan Joseph will take several years to figure it out and he may be a bust. He?s not a good worker. He misses a lot of tackles not wrapping. He gets beat a lot. He does not like the weight room. He has a 315-pound squat and two injuries after only playing one year. He can?t hold up.? ?It will be a cold day in hell when I sign off on a player who has seen less then 12 games at the college level. Donte Whitner has great talent but so much to learn. It could be 2 years before he?s ready? ?Does Jason Avant get drafted on the first day? I put him in the fourth round. He can?t run. A lot of receivers are going to get drafted higher than they should. This is the worst receiving class I have seen since I have begun evaluating.? ?Laurence Maroney is a tight, erect runner. He?s not a creator. There has to be a lane there for him to clear the line. He is a system guy. And he has an odd personality. He does not know when to shut up.? ?Ashton Youboty is very young in his thinking. He should have stayed in school. He looks terrible on tape sometimes. He?s not consistent at all.? ?Anthony Fasano is a lot like (Steelers 2005 first-rounder) Heath Miller was last year. He?s not as good of an athlete, but he can help your team in a lot of the same ways.? ?Don?t like him, don?t like him at all. I can?t find anything in his game that would make me want him to be a part of our organization. (Gabe Watson ?Tony Scheffler reminds me a lot of (Bengals third-rounder) Aaron Schobel. (Scheffler) runs routes like he has a rod shoved up his ass. When you watch him on tape, he looks like a guy you see in black and white cut-ups, like he came out of the 1930s. He?s not fluid at all. I'd be surprised if he went on the first day, but he could. Anything is possible with the group of guys making decisions in this league.? ?I talked to a coach the other day who had Domata Peko graded as a first-day talent. And I couldn?t correct him, but I hope they take him there. That just means another good player will be there for us. (Peko) is a one-year starter from junior college. Those are not the guys I want to bet on coming around.? ?Vince Young has put the brakes on his slide. It?s amazing how all of these evaluations come full circle. No football has been played since January, and what you thought he was then, he still is now. I think he is still more of a thrower than a passer. He?s so big. He drops 11 yards on seven steps. His presence is so intimidating.? ?We spent 12 hours watching film of Charlie Whitehurst. After 3 we were convinced he could be a quality NFL starter. After 6 were convinced he?s the the 2nd best QB in this draft.? ?Tamba Hali cannot find the ball. He is very overrated, and when you combine the history of Penn State defensive ends ? Courtney Brown, Michael Haynes ? I wouldn't touch him. More mistakes are made on players at that school than any because of the way the head coach (Joe Paterno) treats scouts. Call me shortsighted, but I have never drafted one from that school, and it will take a lot of convincing before I do.? ?I like Eric Winston better than (USC OT) Winston Justice. (Winston) is a good technician with solid fundamentals.? ?Leonard Pope is a 50-50 catcher with marginal concentration. He has way too many drops. With the amount of time tight ends have to catch in traffic in the pros, I don?t want him on my team. He can?t get in and out of routes.? ?I think a lot of teams will get spooked out by Ernie Sims? concussions. I love the way he strikes, but I don't know how long he can hold up with the way he hits. He's an assassin." ?Mathias Kiwanuka cannot transfer his speed into power. He has no power. He has few special qualities. He's manufactured. You don?t want to know where I graded him. I have him in the third round.? ?Andrew Whitworth will be overdrafted like all those big, long-armed maulers are. He can?t pull and change directions well enough to help us. He cannot stop a speed charge. He?s not explosive. He has no upside. He hasn?t changed since his freshman year except getting stronger. He has no flexibility. He?s a straight-line mauler with no lateral quickness. But someone will overdraft him because he?s an overachiever.? ?Kai Parham is a dinosaur. He will never be successful in the National Football League. He would have been really good as an inside ?backer in the 3-4 back in the early ?80s.?
damn that guys rips people. I have similar feelings about Charlie W. though. If we do draft a 2nd tier QB I hope its him and not 134 lb. Grodie Croyle
We have been talking about Mangini guys since the day he was hired. Yet we still talk about this guy as a possibilty in the first. This guy is the complete opposite of how I envision a Mangini guy to be..
I like his comments about Eric Winston... and am glad to see someone other than myself that doesn't think Gabe Watson deserves to be drafted. So many Jets fans have him penciled into their mocks, but he is lazy and has multiple character flaws... I don't get it.
these are a bunch of different guys, right? Not one guy. I love how much grades change between teams. These comments actually have the ring of people who have watched tape - which is nice for a change.
I don't think there are many Jets fans out there that want Haloti Ngata. I would be very dissapointed with him as our first pick into the new regime. I have never been a fan of taking DT's high in the draft...alot of them are just so fat that in college their weight helps them dominate...Haloti was always one of the biggest players in every game he played.
These are some of the stupidest comments I've ever seen, on any draft. Honestly. My guess is that half of them used to work for the Jets.
If the first Davis quote is true, there should be no question of who we take at 4. Even the second one seems like a quote from someone TRYING to downgrade Davis. He should be our pick.
I love how at one point he praises Mario Williams above Reggie Bush even, then in another on he says he wasnt even as good as his teammate John McCargo. Either this guy has McCargo rated as the single most dominant player in college ball history, or hes a loon. Either that or these are two different scouts talking. Which shows exactly how subjective these evaluations are, and how no team carries the same opinion of any given player
This tells me they really didn't watch the tapes very closely or he just flat out doesn't know what he's talking about. That or it was just a highlight reel of all four years thrown together. Granted the guy has had several great games, but his overall body of work is horseshit. He will carry a clipboard his entire career.
rajensen did them, he is practicing quotes for the 500 possible players who can be drafted by the Jets.
Maybe the Chiefs will draft Ngata... From this scouts account, he sounds like an "edwards guy" to me.
Still goes to show how no one scout's assessment can be regarded as infallible, and how much opinions on a certain player can vary
