Riddle Me This: Why are the Jets Getting Career Years From Journeyman?

If ever there was a sure indictment of the Pro Bowl, this is it.

In answer to your question, it's got something to do with a blind squirrel or two and a few acorns.

 

Fitzpatrick got lucky in 2015. Absolute crap in 2016. McCown also got lucky in 2017. Hopefully he isn't given a chance to be absolute crap in 2018.

Crediting Bowles is ridiculous though. More of a coincidence.

Now why can't the Jets get their prospects to play that well? Clearly they are terrible at developing QB's.

 

Imagine what they could do with a young QB with extensive skill set, unfortunately we have 2 train wrecks on our roster

 

I’m not sure McCown was ever a bad QB, he just rarely finished a season healthy. We got about 7 more games out of him this season than I predicted. Behind our O-line, I thought he would have been a pile of bone and skin by Week 4.

 

See above posts which are 10 000 plus

Come aboard the Tank train GQ and let's DRAFT the best young QB out there ...give him a year to develop and we will have consistent winning seasons, playoffs etc Along the way, get rid of Dead Weight (Toilet Bowles)
Adapt this philosophy and you will not only dress sharp GQ but sound a lot smarter

 

It’s not a fluke coincidence, gailey and Morton both had qbs that had success in their systems before and both qbs were able to operate that system with enough talent around them that they only needed to do their jobs and not carry the team. Fitz fell apart as the team around him fell apart because he has that gunslinger mentality inside a game managers talent.

 

You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

 

mcclown is a 5th alternate. I mean give me a break NFL. We're naming 5th alternates now?? just the AFC conference. You have 3 pro bowl quarterbacks and then you go through 5 alternates to get to mcclown. That means they named him the 8th best quarterback in the 15 team league. Average.

 

We’re not comparing him to the rest of the league but rather to his own career production. Twice now Bowles has managed to get average to slightly above average years out of career below average qbs.

 

What's wrong with McCown? He was a known journeyman who was handed a poor team acknowledged to be in rebuild and asked to get some actual football out of them. He's done just that, and far more admirably than those 0-16 "fans" here were gleefully anticipating he would. And he actually showed some leadership at QB, which has mostly been sorely absent in recent years.

And it's not just Bowles (whom I don't want anymore of). He's paid to win games. Period. You can't blame him for playing McCown if he was the best option to win the next game. So he was not preparing for 2018 in August 2017. That's not his primary job description. That's on the GM.

We'd be no worse than .500 if the damn defense could figure out how to play the 4th Q. That's on Rodgers, and has nothing to do with McCown, Hack or Petty. To be honest, keeping KR around is another reason I want Bowles gone.

And frankly, the shit show isn't going to change much until the current owner is gone. Maybe we could impeach him right along with his buddy Trump? So really, until that happens, the best any of us can do is make sure there's beers in the fridge and ribs/wings/dogs on the BBQ, cheer for the Green, and kvetch here. Trust me on that. I've been a Jets fan since ...

 

Bowles has nothing to do with the offense, so to even mention Bowles in connection with the play of McCown and Fitz is ridiculous!! Your "logic" is a total fail.

 

Nobody hates McCown. Rather they hate the fact that he was even brought in AND played. Instead taking away significant playing time from the 2 prospects to see if there's any talent there.
And the fact that he played and won some worthless victories and screwed the team out of getting a decent qb prospect in the upcoming draft.

 

if only our 2 'prospects' could have beaten out a 38 year old journeyman with a 2-22 record....oh the humiliation

 

I get that. But the truth is, McCown was brought in because of one of two reasons (or maybe both). Either TB and McC both knew Hack and Petty were not up to the task; or Woody said after the Fitz 2.0 debacle and the shedding of most of the high-priced help, we have to do something to make it look like we're still trying to win, because we still have to sell tickets.

Look at it this way: where would we be if Petty and Hack played the first half of the season and spit the bit going 0 for 8, and McCown comes in and wins 4-5 games? We'd be worse off, because we'd have the same record, yet no hope for Thing1 and Thing2. So we'd draft a QB (perhaps) cut Petty, and 39 year old McCown would still start next year. This way, there's still the chance to take this year's growth on O into next year.

Anyway, McCown is not the worst QB decision we've made in the last 10 years. Not even close.

I figger we're still stuck with Bowles, but for God's sake, can we at least get rid of freaking Kacy Rodgers? Maybe then the offense would have something to play for.

 

McCown is not a bad player if you give him weapons and oline. He was tremendous that year in Chicago when he replaced Jay Cutler.

Say what you want about the talent on the roster, but Kearse, Anderson, and Kerley were able to get open and outside of a few games the oline was able to keep him upright.

 

Nostradamus. After the first pick, assuming its a QB, all the good ones will be gone.

 

But it didn't matter this year...the team was given a rare pass on expectations. Bowles fucked this team up for the next decade by starting McCown.