Look, Rex is a bit of a blowhard but the man DOES know defense. I don't know if he is the best DC in the league, but he clearly learned from his father and given even average talent he can make them good. Good talent he can make great. Great talent -- well, check out the Ravens. I looked at Rex during the Monday press conference and I saw something I never saw before: a beaten Rex Ryan. A man who didn't promise to fix things. A man who looked sullen. A man who looked depressed. A man who knew the truth but can't say it, except in private to Mike Tannenbaum and Woody Johnson. This didn't happen after the Atlanta loss in 2009. Didn't happen after the 45-3 beating by the Pats in 2010. Didn't happen last year. In each case, Rex was confident -- cocky ?? -- and often, he backed it up. I think in all those years Rex legitimately knew he had talent on Defense and Offense and could up-coach it. Maybe we laughed at his "Best Defense ever" talk but as long as he had Revis and even part-time winners like Kris Jenkins and Jim Leonhard, he had a chance. Show me one scribe -- even TGG fans here -- who predicted the methodical dismantling of the Patriots...on the road...in a playoff game.....after the 45-3 pasting ? The "O" was flawless and the "D" did to Brady what he said was one of the worst feelings ever. Even the Ravens defeat the previous year (mostly a running debacle by the Patriots D) wasn't as thorough as the whupping the Jets did to the Pats in the trenches that day. I think Rex knows that without Revis and without Holmes he has nothing. Forget about Super Bowls, he knows that this team isn't even a marginal playoff team. I think in his heart Rex probably knows -- and maybe has told MT and Woody -- that this team is probably a 6-10 or 7-9 team. Rex knows about the trenches on the D and O-lines. And he knows the Jets are getting destroyed there. You don't reverse something like that after 4 weeks of nothing; the only time I saw a team do a 180-UTurn is when Indy during their Super Bowl run turned from a sieve into a steel curtain. I still don't know how they did it since nobody came back from the injured list, it's like something 'clicked' after 12 or 13 weeks. They had allowed 300 yards rushing some games and then it all came together. Barring a miracle like that -- and we have Sanchez (who I like) and not Peyton Manning -- we aren't going to even be in position to hope for a miracle U-Turn like that down the line. I think Rex knows that and that's why he looked like a beaten man at Monday's press conference. He's not going out on a limb for a bad team which I think he realizes we probably are. Would he call a great team (the 2010 team) the Best in the NFL ? Sure ! Would he call a good team (the 2009 team) the 'favorite' entering the playoffs ? Sure ! Would he even call a questionable team (the 2011 team) a good or great team ? Sure ! But I don't see him being foolish enough now. Rex may embellish and engage in hyperbole -- when he can get away with it. But he's not going to call a talent-less team a good or great or playoff team. He's not going to risk his reputation on a 1-in-1,000 turnaround possibliity. Remember, MT had Rex forced on him -- he wanted to keep Mangini. Rex is now saying with his demeanor what he said explicitly about Stephen Hill: not enough talent. That points the arrow at MT. Regardless of who points it where, this team isn't good enough. We know it, and Rex knows it. That's why he looked like he did at Monday's press conference.
Well that depressed me! I somewhat agree, though. If Rex doesn't believe in the Jets, The Jets won't believe in the Jets.
I agree and he looked like this two weeks in a row..last week everybody assumed was because he had just lost Revis. He looks like somebody who doesn't even want to be bothered with these pressers anymore. Oh, and he did call this the best team he has had since he has been here so that part of your post is just not correct.
Rex has always worn his heart on his sleeve. He looked just as miserable after losing Leonard and getting assfucked by the Patriots.
Look, I know Rex is a really top notch Defensive coach, but the Ravens myth is just keeps getting perpetuated on here. The best year the Ravens ever had defensively was the 2000 team that won the SB. Marvin Lewis was the D coordinator at the time, not Rex. He was just the D-Line coach. Rex was passed over for the DC job when Lewis left and Mike Nolan got the job. Rex was the DC from 2005 to 2008. While those defenses were surely top notch, Rex definitely did not build it, they were already in place. Then the Ravens passed Rex over for HC and gave the job to the ST coach, and that's worked out pretty well for them I'd say.
That was in the preseason I believe.....Revis was still healthy, Holmes was OK, and Stephen Hill was still a possibility as a Poorman's Calvin Johnson. There is not threatening of jobs because the guys behind the starters are not much better if that than the starters. The only thing surprising to me is not being able to stop the run. I thought our D-Line was good enough to do that and I figured the big/slow LB crew could at least stop the run. Instead, the tackling is terrible which tells me NOT THAT THEY NEED TO PRACTICE TACKLING but that they are too slow in getting to the runner and in poor position because of being blocked/pushed previously. This could be the WORST Jet rushing defense going back to the early-1970's. Again....I didn't think our D-Line was good but I thought it was at least average/competent. But something is wrong there. As for the O-Line...Sparano should have been brought in to coach those guys, they never should have let Callahan leave even if it meant promoting him to OC. And how motivated can Matt Cavanaugh be to tutor Sanchez when he knows they tried to give his job to 3 other QB coaches during the off-season ??? Honestly, the coaching decisions alone during the off-season -- forgetting the draft and the DO NOTHING approach to FA -- boggles the mind. I wonder if Woody gave MT a pass this year, saying he needed another year of a low cash outlay under the cap to save $$$ to make up for the PSL/ST debacle.
Agreed, but the talent was in its prime then. Ray Lewis was All-World, the last few years he's been merely good. They wanted THE NAME of Nolan and Rex was still suffering from the ties to his father. Brian Billick wanted to be THE VOICE of the team, not Rex. Again, they wanted a guy more quiet and conventional...remember, the Ravens sold out all their PSL's years ago....the Jets didn't which is one reason why Woody wanted Rex.
I agree that Colts D turn-around was insane, but as I recall, didn't Bob Sanders return from injury that year?
A true champion faces adversity and overcomes. No more excuses. You are the coach, make it work. 34-0 is inexcusable. Losing is inexcusable.
I'm starting to believe this is SOJ.. I don't think our GM has a glue on what he doing. I'm also starting to think Rex doesn't either. Come on everybody in the whole fucking world knows the Jets have a weak WR core now with Holmes down they need to go get Plax,T.O. or chad and they sit and do nothing? What the fuck is going on?
The guy was probably tired from watching all the footage. Obviously a loss like that stings, but he's not about to give up on the season while we're 2-2, (2-0 division) and tied for foist. If we can overcome that Pat's loss in 2010, we can overcome this. 45-3 is worse than 34-0. We had a much better defense back then as well and all TDs were offensive. This game was a wake up call. I say we answer it.
Here is what really sucks ,,,,when coaches are brought in,,,Mangini now Rex we bought into the hype at least I did ,,,I watched those press conferences and I was relieved and thought back to other times when complete and utter BS took place on the field an by the players and coaches ( Herms clock management and dick curl immediately come to mind ) and said to myself " thank god those days are over and we are finally on track and have a guy that will not allow shit to happen " ,,,,,,,,,,,sad to say those days are back again and there is a lack of accountability on this team and in this organization
The problem with this team right now is it is missing players. Were down 2 of our best,and we are short wrs,rb and a pass rusher. Has nothing to do with Rex. When he has the pieces,he is a good coach,you've already seen that. Just like without the pieces(brady),belichick isn't shit.
I agree. Nevertheless, I thought for sure we'd have a more explosive offense to go along with a smash mouth defense this year, and instead of bringing in a guy that would ensure we score more tds, we get the same exact thing with Sparano that we had with Schottenheimer. Tanny has no clue what he's doing.
