IMO we definitely need to add at least one RB to the rotation, and preferably two. MC is gold, but Coleman is older and can't stay healthy. Johnson can't or won't block and can't catch a cold. Walter is probably on a ST/PS level player. While one doesn't want to take a RB early, this is a pretty deep draft for RBs who would fit out scheme. Who would you like to see the Jets draft? I can't vouch for the accuracy of the following source, but it may influence your decision one way or the other.
I would love to add Tyler Allgeier. He's 5'11", 220 lbs. and is fast, has power, is an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and played with Zach at BYU in 2020. If the metric in the chart above is accurate, and NFL teams agree with that, he may go as early as the 2nd or 3rd round, and that's too early for us to take a RB. I'm hoping that he will be there in the 4th and/or 5th round and we can take him somewhere in there. Abram Smith and Rachaad White both played very well for the National team coached by the Jets at yesterday's Sr. Bowl, so may have the inside track, and I'd be happy with either. Tyler Badie was supposed to be on the National team, and I think I remember reading something positive about him in practice reports, but don't think I ever saw him on the field yesterday, and didn't ever hear his name called. I was limited with responses on the poll, but Kyren Williams is another RB that would be a great addition to our RB corps. If we don't draft Abram Smith or Hassan Haskins, maybe Zonder Horvath, FB would be a good UDFA signing.
Here’s another Reddit post where someone gets a ton of data and put it together, he also like Allgeier. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf idk you need an account to see Reddit so here’s the text. Using PFF College Data to Accurately Predict RB Success I made [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/s7j79s/pff_tackle_stats_and_their_correlation_to_nfl/) post a few weeks ago doing the same thing with offensive tackles and found promising and reliable stats to combine to predict NFL success. Now here is my work with RB, which is SIGNIFICANTLY better. The first step was to collect and clean the PFF data. Any guy who came out, was put on IR early, and then busted was removed from the data set. I'm comparing this data to AV as a "success measurement". Basically, AV is an attempt to put a single number on the seasonal value of a player at any position from any year. Is it perfect, probably not, but I don't need it to be perfect, I just need a general idea of whether these players were good, and how good. If you have any questions about AV read [here](https://www.sports-reference.com/blog/approximate-value/). This is our correlation data. Basically, the closer the number next to the metric is to 1, the more correlation with NFL success. We are looking Av after 4 years in the league. ​ https://preview.redd.it/09m3e7g9nvf...bp&s=72526d2312e46109db8d23134e6946a71d679535 Let's define some of the best metrics that we are going to combine to come up with a final "Grade". **Grades\_Offense:** The Offensive Grade given to the RB by PFF. [Here](https://www.pff.com/grades) is a link if you have questions about how they get there. Is it perfect? Nope, but for RBs, they do a pretty damn good job. 0.55 is a very good single stat correlation number. **Yco\_attempt:** This is simply the amount of yards after contact per attempt the RB gets. **RAS:** Raw Athletic Score. Not a PFF stat, but very useful so I put it in. **Elusive\_Rating:** A PFF Signature stat measuring success and impact of a runner with the ball independently of the blocking Combining these stats I was able to put together this stat that we will call "Grade". This grade has a pretty great correlation. https://preview.redd.it/p7rr7swtuvf...bp&s=c25ac9f0c5cec74907c0e1f3fb3dd31bbffc91fe To get this "grade" I used 60% Grades\_offense, 15% of yco\_attempt, 15% RAS, and 10% Elusive Rating. ​ https://preview.redd.it/enii5gp2qvf81.png?width=688&format=png&auto=webp&s=a36f15fe3dfd8173f1e86bd14a52e20717c5b8d4 Let's look deeper at the data for a second. who are the guys that had above a 7.5? ​ https://preview.redd.it/58k2dmx9rvf81.png?width=142&format=png&auto=webp&s=f6d672147a7a5be8f371f1783432addfd1032be2 Out of those 16 guys, the 3 that didn't live up to the metric were Paul Perkins, Jeremy McNichols, and Ameer Abdullah. Guys in this set that were drafted late, but my metric loved were Chris Carson, Marlon Mack, and Aaron Jones. Out of the Rbs that had an 8 on this metric, 0 of them ended up busting, and all 8 of them had successful first 4 years in the league. On the other hand, RBs that had less than 6.5, had a 92% (26/28) chance of having less than 20 AV after 4 years. The two outliers being Lenord Fournette and James Conner. Lets now look forward to the 2022 RB class. Since we don't have RAS yet, I'm just gonna use avg RAS for RBs, so this data can change a little bit based on if they get above/below a 6.4 on their RAS come combine time. ​ https://preview.redd.it/kt5wgezx7wf...bp&s=6d575beaddbf384e60de7365f9ff6e0256cc3f3f If you have any questions definitely reach out. I enjoy just having fun with these numbers. At the end of the day, it's not even close to an end all be all. Don't take it too seriously but it is interesting.
Thanks. This is interesting as well. Did you notice that some of the players' rankings varied dramatically? For instance, Jerrion Ealy was #24 on the first chart you provided, but on this last one, he is #3. Isaiah Spiller fell from #3 to #14. Tyler Badie is #8 on one and #19 on the other. Did the same poster on Reddit come up with both charts? If so, why did players rank so differently from one chart to the other?
I like Allgeier but I think he’ll be scooped up quickly. Keep an eye on Kennedy Brooks out of OK. Good hands and hard to tackle. He can be the thunder to Carter’s lightning giving the Jets a good young tandem. I think he can be had in the fourth round - very underrated.
I saw on Twitter that Jeremy Ford didn't play in the game because he had a daughter (maybe his first child) being born.
Sorry, I meant to reply to this earlier. The 1st chart (posted by someone else) is someone else’s ranking and idk how he came about it. With the chart I posted, the kid explained what factors he used and graded established RBs with the same scale to show that his measurements stood up the the rest of time. It’s not my chart so idk.
Thanks for the heads-up about Brooks, Mr. Jet. I agree that he's very underrated. After looking at some tape, I've been extremely impressed with his combination of vision, balance, and breakaway speed. This is a recipe for long, game-changing runs. He's been my preferred sleeper RB since you pointed him out awhile ago, and he may well be available in the fifth round. I have to admit, though, that I haven't examined his game tapes extensively, and I'm a little concerned about his reported pass catching deficiencies (e.g., "As a pass-catcher, Brooks is very limited in both his route running and pass-catching ability. Brooks’ routes are mostly limited to swing routes out of the backfield. And as a pass-catcher, Brooks has dropped multiple passes." Kennedy Brooks RB Oklahoma - Draft Player Profile | The Draft Network). My plan B for a bigger back to rotate with Carter is Abram Smith, who has limitations in speed, explosiveness, and pass blocking. There are also questions about Smith's hands and ball security, although he looked comfortable catching the ball at the Senior Bowl. Abram Smith RB Baylor | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report (nfldraftbuzz.com) In any case, let's remember that Carter will get the majority of our snaps. He is our starting RB. In light of our multiple other deficiencies, I think we can make do with one of the bigger RB's who will be available in the fifth round.
I wasn’t aware of this but Brooks will also be 24 in October. That may cause some hesitancy on draft boards.
Seems like the 4th round could be a good spot to get a solid RB. I'd also bring back Tevin Coleman, who was much better than I thought he'd be especially for the low contract. Would be a nice backfield with Carter, a rookie, Coleman and Johnson/Walter
