Randolph may be fired by monday

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  1. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

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  2. ajetsfan4ever

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    sad to say, but do we root for the mets to lose this series?
     
  3. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

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    if only i could wrap my hands around your neck...........

    never root for your team to lose........ NEVER
     
  4. ajetsfan4ever

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    i feel ya, but i want willie gone, should we win, it will just delay the process
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The real culprit(Omar) should be the one he gets fired for putting together this mess of a team.
     
  6. ajetsfan4ever

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    hover around .500 all year w/willie, or fire his ass and take a chance that manuel can turn this around?
     
  7. ajetsfan4ever

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    well omar wont fire himself
     
  8. 17a_tailgater

    17a_tailgater Active Member

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    IF ANYTHING BUCK SHOWALTWER IS THE TYPE OF MANAGER WOULD COULD USE
    sorry about the caps
     
  9. vinsjets

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    You are not bright... And you never root for a loss.

    These moves come from the Owners.

    I'd love to see Omar and Willie get the boot.
     
  10. FITM

    FITM 2006 TGG.com Best Photoshop Artist Award Winner

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    Willie Watch
    The Bergen Record
    STEVE POPPER

    I stepped into the press box at Shea at about 2:45 p.m. - far before the teams are supposed to be on the field. But to my surprise, I saw royal blue warmups spread out over the field, about 15 players and an assortment of coaches.

    And then I looked again and saw that it was all Texas Rangers taking early batting practice.

    Hard to believe with the Mets situation that it is the opposition that is taking extra work, but it wasn't until well after 3 that I finally saw a Met - Sandy Alomar Sr. and Sandy Alomar Jr. - popping out to say hellos to some old friends. Then Ray Ramirez, the Mets trainer who formerly worked for Texas, came out - and then Omar Minaya.

    And all of that may be a roundabout way of explaining just why Willie Randolph is on the hot seat - the very hot seat.

    The countdown seems to be on with little chance of pulling back. According to a person with knowledge of the meeting, Omar Minaya met with Fred Wilpon and Jeff Wilpon Thursday and Minaya has been given the green light from ownership to make whatever decision he chooses. There will be no questioning the eating of the remainder of Randolph's contract. If Minaya wants Willie out, the path has been cleared.

    So how long does Minaya wait? He has been careful in his wording throughout the Mets' struggles this season to say, "Willie is our manager." He's never said for how long. And time seems to be about up.

    The sad truth is that Randolph is taking the hit for a team that should hide its head in shame. The injuries have hurt, but more painful has been underachieving of almost the complete roster.

    There is plenty of blame to go around and few who can be absolved. But it's always the manager who takes the blame. You'd have to stretch to convince me that any of the recent defeats have fallen on moves that Randolph made or didn't make. And you'd have a harder time convincing me that Jerry Manuel, a tremendously nice man and astute baseball man, would have made a difference.

    The only thing that the team seems to need is a foot up its collective - well, let's say they need someone to get in their face and wake them up. Is Randolph the man? He hasn't been. Is Manuel the man? Hard to imagine.

    So now the Mets wait. Inside though - let the other teams work. The Mets seem to still believe the expectations that were set for them.
     
  11. Attackett

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    Wow so management is actually more clueless than I thought. WTf is a weekend of good baseball going to prove? Either fire him or don't but to give him a weekend to turn this team around is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in sports.
     
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    so ruin a chance to salvage this season, or fire willie and maybe turn this around, and im the one who is not bright
     
  13. ajetsfan4ever

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    thats who i would love to get
     
  14. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    the bolded part is why there is no hope for this team
     
  15. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    I posted in the other thread my agreement with Vision that this is lunacy at its highest level. Either fire him or don't (and I've made my views on that crystal clear), but to think that anything could happen in the next three days that actually means anything new regarding his abilities is absurd.

    As to the article, I must say I find it mysterious when people give a manager a pass when the entire team is underperforming. Managers win Manager of the Year when a team does better than expected, but somehow a manager has nothing to do with them doing worse than expected? The team needs a collective kick in the butt and it's not the manager's fault that he can't or won't do it? The players aren't out there taking extra practice and that doesn't reflect badly on the manager and his abilities to make the team committed to winning?
     
  16. ajetsfan4ever

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    i've seen enough of willie the past to seasons to see that he is not a great manager, he is an ok manager, even last night, up 4-0 johan is pitching a masterpiece, he had to ph for him, even though he can hit, so he goes to the bullpen, who he has wore out the last 2 seasons,

    when does willie not go to the bullpen? up by,1,2,3,4,5,6, or down the same, he goes to the bullpen, can anybody remember the last time we had a complete game?

    the rays have 4 this year
     
  17. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Well the team seems to have taken notice and is now blowing the Rangers away....

    BTW I'll be at the game Monday when Jerry Manuel makes his debut as Mets manager....
     

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