Question on Ryan's Credibility

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  1. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    I have been telling myself for weeks that the Jets cannot select a QB in the 1st round. My personal belief that we should use the pick elsewhere aside, does anyone else see drafting a QB in the 1st round as a huge hit against Rex Ryan's credibility?? You cannot show up as a new head coach proclaiming how happy you are with the QBs on the roster, that these are the guys that we're going to have an open competition with, etc, etc, etc, and then go and draft a QB to be the obvious starter. It seems as though the QBs, and the entire team for that matter, has rallied around Ryan's insistence that these are his guys. If the Jets draft a QB in the 1st, does he not now lose a ton of credibility regardless of what you guys may think of the QB situation? I just can't seem him doing it after billing himself as this brutally honest coach.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    If we draft a QB in the first they are probably the 3rd string QB barring injuries. How do you figure they'd be the starter?
     
  3. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    Unless my team went deep in the playoffs last year, I'm not drafting a 3rd string QB in the 1st round. To take a QB in the first round when there's other holes to fill and you plan on him being the 3rd string QB for half a year or for a full season makes no sense to me. You either think the kid is better than the QBs you have and so you're drafting him to be your starter, or you don't, so you don't touch him.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Most QB's don't sniff the field in there rookie season. It usually takes an injury to get them in the game. That's not to say it never happens, but it's not the norm.
     
  5. brothermoose

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    First of all, that call belongs to the front office, not Rex Ryan (directly).

    Secondly, I don't care what he says, I just want him to win.

    So, no.
     
  6. njjet

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    Give me a break ... Ryan should take the best available athlete with the 17 pick. If that's a QB so be it. It has nothing to do with credibility, it's all about the best player on the board when the Jets pick.
     
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    Take Usain Bolt with the 17th!
     
  8. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    Then why say anything to the media about the QB situation? Why instill that kind of confidence in them and in the team? There's something to be said for accountability. By throwing up smokescreens like that, he's doing the same thing to the team that's rallying around Ratliff and Clemens, who now both think they have a shot at the starting QB job for the long haul. To me, it sends a message that you can't trust his words, and for a coach that seems to pride himself off of that, then that's an issue.

    As for it being not just a Ryan concern, you're right. But then to me, there's a miscommunication between Tannenbaum and Ryan because there's no way Ryan should be so forthright with his praise for Clemens and Ratliff if the team's intention is to undermine everything that he's said.
     
  9. brothermoose

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    Each player will respond to him by the way he treats him. What he says to the media should be of little account.
     
  10. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    How many franchise QB's are taken at #17 overall?

    We had Cutler at #4, but we took D'Brickashaw instead. I do not think we should waste our 1st round pick on an unproven college QB like Freeman who will be holding a clipboard for the next year or two minimum. We have enough guys who can fulfill that duty.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    so he shouldn't say anything positive about liking his QBs and should pull a Mangini and have a non-answer.

    then there would be threads about the non-answer he gave... so there is no pleasing everyone.

    the team knows that if a QB is drafted in the 1st round its an organizational decision, not a coaches decision.

    If Ryan drafts let's say Sanchez in round 1 and then on April 27th anoints him the starter - then the credibility is a little tainted.
     
  12. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. No way any QB we would draft would come in and start year 1. I reserve any judgement good/bad on Rex until i see this team in action.

    IMO, i think we're drafting Pettigrew and i love it!
     
  13. gustoonarmy

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    Have a feeling that we might, as well.
    Its not a sexy pick but it will help out hugely.

    The only top QB that will be on the board when we pick will be Freeman.....pass.
     
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    I would not expect him to say anything negative about Clemens or any other QB on the roster. First he does not know them that well and neither has really played enough to make a judgment. Secondly if they are targeting a QB in the draft you do not want to tip your hand and tell everyone in the league you do not like the guys you have. There may not be any of the top QBs on the board when we pick and he is "stuck" with what he has, why let the guys on the roster feel unwanted. Lastly I do not want a Boy Scout for a Head Coach he can say what he wants do you think Parcells or Bellidick care about credibility?
     
  15. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I would be much more concerned about him being a players coach rather than his speaking highly of players on the team while drafting players he thinks are either BAP or will upgrade the team.
     
  16. Footballgod214

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    did mangini lose points when he signed favre? oh wait, that was tanny, never mind.

    as far as pimping clemens, a wise man once told me when you go out drinking be nice to ALL the girls, even the fat ones. come 4am when the lights come on they may be your only 'option'.

    he also told me the average girl is only two beers away from becoming a lesbian. how true. how true.
     
  17. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    and i think that there is the answer i've been looking for haha.
     
  18. sec314

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    Hear Hear.
     
  19. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The 3rd for about two weeks, the starter after 4. You don't spend 50 million bucks on a 3rd string qb.
     
  20. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Yes LKDon, they would go from 3rd string to starter in one week. :rolleyes:

    Obviously the plan would be for the guy to start eventually, and not for them to be the 3rd stringer. You don't start a rookie QB unless it's absolutely necessary. Having guys with experience in the system like we do, it wouldn't be necessary to throw a rookie into the fire unless there were injuries.
     

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