Question about Ourlads

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  1. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Is the Ourlads scouting report still respected? I used to buy it years ago and really enjoyed their analysis and I just bought this year's preview. I'm wondering what people think of it. I haven't had chance to look at it in detail but in their ratings at least there are a LOT of quality offensive tackles. If anyone is interested I will post a few summaries.
     
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    I haven't read OurLads in years. Used to be great!! Any info on my boy Trevon Walker?
     
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  3. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    According to the little snippets in the PFF draft game, there does seem to be a lot of tackles highly rated, one down in the 3rd or 4th had a pff rating of 93+
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    for example

    Kellen Diesch ranked 184 pick on PDN

    We begin Diesch’s scouting report with the obvious. At over 6’7″, the imposing figure looks the part of an NFL offensive tackle. Like several OT prospects in this class, Diesch has a slender frame at 301 pounds. While this may be a concern for NFL teams, it does allow the Arizona State offensive tackle the ability to mitigate some of the issues that taller OTs have in the NFL.

    Sometimes taller tackles, like Diesch, have issues playing with high pad level. However, this isn’t a concern for the Arizona State OT. He routinely plays with a low pad level, allowing him to get under his opponent at the point of attack. Where the low man wins in the trenches, this is a distinct advantage.

    pff ranked #77

    Diesch was one of the highest-graded Power Five tackles in the country this past season and didn't lose much in pass protection, as he allowed multiple pressures only once in 2021 and gave up all of seven in total.

    Max Mitchel
    pff ranked 88th graded 94.4

    Mitchell was the highest-graded tackle in all of college football in 2021. He earned a 94.8 overall grade while playing right tackle for the Ragin' Cajuns after allowing only 13 pressures across 430 pass-blocking snaps.
     
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    He is their third-rated edge with a grade of 9.58. Grades 9 and up are for players who should start as rookies.
     
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  6. ukjetsfan

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    I'm going to post a few summaries of how the players stack up according to Ourlads. I'm not going to post huge swathes of stuff because I think they are a fairly small operation.

    Here is the rating system they use:

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    Edge

    Aidan Hutchinson - 9.78
    The techniques are pro caliber, the understanding of the game is advanced, and the grit that carries over snap to snap, week to week, will create a difference maker at the next level... elite upper body strength... variety of rush moves... tremendous lower body flexibility and stability.

    Kayvon Thibodeaux - 9.68
    Long, explosive frame... cut from stone with minimal-to-no bad weight... upper tier first step... easy knee bender... heavy hands... high effort defender... needs to enhance his rush moves.

    Travon Walker - 9.58
    Sky-high ceiling and immediate contribution... plays low to the ground via easy bend at both knees and ankles... violent player that will relish the role of a bully... not yet a natural adjuster and decision maker.

    George Karlaftis - 9.38
    Top-shelf technician... every down weapon... film nut and gym rat... coach's dream... can anchor into the ground like a tree... elite hand-fighter with a variety of moves.

    Jermaine Johnson II - 9.37
    Safe pick who could evolve into a big-time edge rusher... closes fast... violent tackler... elite run defender... some tightness in his hips.

    Boye Mafe - 9.13
    Has a variety of pass rush moves and flashes a lightning first step... plays with knee bend and good pad level... lacks consistency versus the run.

    Other prospects:
    Arnold Ebiketie - 8.82
    David Ojabo - 8.77
    Drake Jackson - 8.25
    Sam Williams - 7.98
     
  8. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Kinda disappointing they have just graded them pretty much as everybody else tbh

    Also, just one flag they sayd Karlaftis has a variety of moves, I am sure I read yesterday that he is the opposite and needs to gain more variety, will have to hunt that down.

    EDIT
    It was in the NFL.com scout report under weaknesses

    • Hulk-smash rush approach could use some variance.
     
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  9. ukjetsfan

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    Yes, it will be interesting to see if there is any variance with the other positions as I work through the whole preview. The actual player bios are much lengthier, but I didn't want to post them in their entirety. I will post up the full reports on the players the Jets end up selecting, though.
     
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    Let's have a look at how Ourlads view this wide receiver class...

    Drake London - 9.47
    Former Division I basketball player brings a combination of size, grace, and power presence to the table that can make him a threat in traffic at all times… long and nimble frame with basketball-type suddenness and fluidity… high success rate in 50/50 situations… high-success rate as an underneath route runner… plays big but slippery at the same time… allowed too many balls to bounce off his hands and hit the turf… lacks the final gear to separate downfield… ceiling falls short of a true number one threat.

    Garrett Wilson – 9.46
    Dynamic and explosive playmaker who is a threat to score each time he steps on the field… size and speed are both good enough but neither are stand out traits… elite body control and special awareness… can project to both the outside and the slot depending on the offense… expect him to make plays right away and ascend to one of the more dangerous threats in the league at the position… too many concentration drops… will make his post -catch moves before he has the ball.

    Treylon Burks – 9.22
    Strong and thick enough to make a difference with the ball in his hands and fast enough to pose as a downfield threat… skill set as a route runner and ball catcher are still developing… huge hands… excels aft er the catch with good vision and a sturdy presence… quality route runner… specializes in back-shoulder throws… needs to show more wiggle as an underneath route runner… late with his hands at times, will cause drops.

    Chris Olave – 9.18
    Smooth and easy operator who moves with the kind of natural suddenness to constantly get open underneath and intermediate… safe bet to be an ideal complementary, number two target in any kind of passing attack… sure, reliable route runner who understands spacing and timing… has the look of an ice skater when moving at his top level of speed… can get knocked off his point due to a lack of strength and power in his slight frame… will too often allow the ball into his numbers.

    Jahan Dotson – 9.16
    Elite movement in all directions… burst, quickness, and acceleration give him constant space to work with… hands are like magnets to the ball and the body control is always there… dynamic ability with the ball in his hands after the catch and in the return game… impeccable footwork as both a route runner and pass catcher… elite foot-in-ground explosion when he needs to change direction… adds solid punt return value… plays small against contact… will give up too much space when avoiding press corners.

    Jameson Williams – 9.11
    Plays fast and smooth… ability to call on different gears at any point, whether he is running routes or carrying the ball… no wasted movement… aggressive mindset and gamer’s mentality. Often found making downfield blocks, and was used on special teams as both a gunner and returner… top tier talent that can be one of the best playmakers in the NFL… abnormally long and wiry frame whose outstretched fingers reach his knees from a standing position… can make the spectacular catch with an enormous catch radius… may be too flexible and explosive for his own good, creating a high risk for lower body joint injuries… gets knocked around too easily by contact with a defender… had multiple concentration drops and too often allows the ball into his body.

    Other prospects:
    John Metchie III – 8.59
    George Pickens – 8.35
    Skyy Moore – 8.05
    David Bell – 8.02
    Jalen Tolbert – 7.96
     
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    Offensive tackles

    Evan Neal – 9.76
    Has elite physical tools… power comes easy and natural, and the explosion within his blocking can put him in a rare tier of offensive line prospects… upside is as high as it gets… can eventually be one of the best linemen in the game… carries enormous weight with ease that is well distributed throughout his frame… an absolute boulder that could stop an oncoming locomotive.

    Ikem Ekwonu – 9.73
    Should immediately be one of the best athletes along the offensive line in the NFL… rare explosion that flashes week to week… violent intentions that are always looking for extra work… a weapon in the running game especially when he gets to the second level in space… incredible athletic ability that will convert speed into power… pass protection sets are inconsistent in space against speed… upside is through the roof, but there is a lot of work to be done.

    Charles Cross – 9.61
    Has all the tools and on-field intelligence to be a starting tackle in the league… size and athletic ability look natural and easy… has a calmness about him in pass protection that is hard to find… some brute strength and power issues that show up in the running game.

    Trevor Penning – 9.29
    Brings immense size, power, and attitude to the trenches… the kind of player who can slide into a starting offensive line and change the personality up front… does have a few athletic shortcomings… a possibility his best fit would be inside… heavy, cinderblock hands and a lower half that can resemble tree roots… not a natural bendy, fast-paced athlete.

    Bernhard Raimann – 8.99
    Played tight end until 2020… quick feet and overall twitch carry over well… rough around the edges and does not have the prototype frame for the position… athleticism and rawness do leave the door open for more obtainable upside than most prospects at the position, but there is a lot of development needed… raw skill set that has come a long way in just two years of playing tackle.

    Other prospects

    Tyler Smith – 8.93
    Abraham Lucas – 8.86
    Daniel Faalele – 8.39
    Nicholas Petit-Frere – 8.15
    Max Mitchell – 8.00
     
  12. ukjetsfan

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    Here is a list of all the prospects Ourlads rates as first-round quality:

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