First time doing this, but here is how I would potentially play this draft: First off, there is real value in the FA market in defensive secondary. I think the Jets get either one or both of Tony Jefferson and AJ Bouye. Which will give them one or two young guys to slot in right away. I also think they don’t chase after Glennon and some other team overpays. This draft is deep with defense, so I think the Jets go offense early thinking they could get good defensive value in the middle rounds. Also they don’t have great options at OL no matter what they do so I think they grab one guy at LT and build up who they have on Roster. And I dont see them taking one of the top QB's in this draft. Draft: Jets picks: 6,39,70,107,150,191,224 First Pick: The Jets obviously don’t like their spot. They don’t want to take a QB at 6, because that guy immediately becomes QB1 and he won’t be ready. There is no value in OL at 6, and there isn’t a pass rush OLB there either. I think Fournette gets taken at 4 or 5, and so the Jets are looking at Hooker with his 2 upcoming surgeries and Lattimore who is Dee Millner 2.0. The Jets want to gather picks, and Cleveland has 11 of them. The Browns look like they are going to dump RG3, and that will leave them with Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan. They will have already taken Myles Garrett with the first pick, and will be worried that 2 of the 4 QB’s they are interested in will be off the board by 12. I think they would want to lock up Mahomes or Watson and can move up without giving up too much. So, the Jets trade pick 6 to the Browns for picks 12 and 33. The Browns pick a QB with the 6th pick, and the Jets select with the 12th pick: Mike Williams WR Clemson. Yes, they have a lot of upcoming guys in the WR position, but Quincy isn’t a true number one. Mike Williams is. He made incredible catch after catch, and I think he made Watson look better than he was. With the 33rd pick, the Jets select: Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford: Just a weapon and matchup problem. McCaffrey is a safety blanket for a young QB. It’s probable he is already taken by this pick. If taken, they can take Alvin Kamara, who is almost as good. Or grab one of the top CB’s still on the board. With the 39th Pick, the Jets select: TJ Watt OLB: Wisconsin. The Jets get an edge rusher with upside and a great family lineage. Coach Kevin Greene will do a great job getting TJ to stick it to the passer. At this point, I think the Jets would have dealt Sheldon for a pick, and its likely a late 2nd early 3rd round pick (and also maybe a later pick or a pick in 2018.) Lets say Dallas’ 60th pick. If so, the Jets will take Antonio Garcia OT Troy. Tough, aggressive guy. Needs to add a bit of size. Best option at LT for the Jets. Figure the Jets sign a vet, maybe even bring Clady back for a season, then slide Garcia in. Pick 70 (3rd Round): Jets select Cordrea Tankersley, CB Clemson. A good all around cover guy, big corner, very skilled and a top CB in the draft. Pick 107 (3rd Round): Jets select Cameron Sutton, CB Tennessee. Good man to man corner. Not the fastest, but is a consistent football player. Pick 150: Jets select Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas. An all around TE. 6’6, 255 lbs. Can block and catch, had a good combine. May fall some due to shoplifting incident. Pick 191: Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss. Why not? He has talent. Probably as much as most of the other QB’s. There would be concern about how he would interact with Petty and Hack. But maybe those two straight arrows can show him how to straighten his own life out. And he can bring them a bit of Swag. I don’t see Mac bringing this guy in, but it would be fun if he did! Pick 224: Matt Milano OLB Boston College: Hard hitting special teamer, potential edge rusher, undersized only 6'. But plays with heart. Will fit in more as a hybrid Safety. So 9 picks. 5 offense, 4 defense. A #1 WR Tall WR, RB/WR speed guy, Edge Rusher, Left Tackle, 2 CB’s, a TE, a Special Teams stud and a project QB.
Really like the first 3 picks. Speaking on the QBs, I just saw that Charlie Campbell said he talked with Jets sources at the Combine and they told him they aren't likely to take a QB in the early rounds because the top 4 don't interest them. Don't know if it's true, but I hope it is.
Funny, so we have heard in the last 24 hours that they don't like Glennon at $14 mil (smart) and they don't like the top QB's in the draft. Petty time?
I would be VERY surprised if the Jets really said that and meant it due to Mac's statement about all the Jets picks being available for trade. Teams who might want to trade up to get a QB wouldn't have to worry about the Jets, so they could trade up with another team instead of the Jets. And on top of saying they don't like Glennon at $14 million (I'm taking your word on that), it would say to me that they are planning on either drafting a QB or signing one in FA.
Well, that Glennon quote came from Mehta. So who knows? Also, I think not wanting the QB serves the Jets interest in trading down because there will be some teams who will look to reach for one and know the Jets are in the market to trade down. I think QB will be a big mystery this year.
I like the trade down and getting an extra pick as well as trading Richardson for the #60 pick! I think Williams is a very good prospect, but could be disappointed a bit if that happened, depending upon who had already been drafted and who was still there. Do you see Howard as already drafted? I wouldn't be happy with McCaffery with the 2nd round pick. IMO he's not what the Jets need at RB, and without a serious upgrade to the OL, he would be a wasted pick. If the Jets are set on taking a RB here, I'd rather have Foreman of Texas or Kamara than McCaffery. If they're not set on a RB there, if Charles Harris of Missouri is still there, I'd sprint to the podium and take him if I were Mac. Alternatively, if the Jets didn't sign Bouye or a FA CB or two, then I'd take the best CB at that point, or maybe Mahomes. Even though he has good bloodlines, at this point I don't think I would be happy with Watt, either. He's only had one year of starting experience at OLB and didn't have very good production. I would like taking a pass rusher fairly high, however. Hopefully, I'd get Harris in the 2nd so would then use this pick for a CB. I like the Garcia, Sutton and Sprinkle picks. Kelly has a lot of talent, but mentally I just don't know. He could be a huge distraction, particularly in NY. I think I'd rather Mac take an OG, FB, ILB or another DB here. I don't know Milano, but like the fact you took a STer.
The rumor is the Browns would be interested in Taylor if/when he becomes available. That would eliminate the Browns from the QB market and most likely eliminate them from being a trade partner with us, which is unfortunate. I'd be very happy with this draft though. Surprised more aren't interested in Williams, I think he'd be a great pick. Also much prefer McCaffrey in the 2nd then Fournette/Cook in 1st, although I'd prefer a TE or possibly QB in this spot.
Thanks for your thoughts. No, I still think Howard is on the board at 12. But I just have a problem with picking a TE that high. Shit even Gronk was picked in the 2nd round 42nd. Its a position of need, but I dont take them that high. I understand with the McCaffrey pick. I just think he is very polished and plays with an edge. He has alot to prove and I like him over Cook. But if they like Mahomes, and he is there, its likely better to take a QB at that point than an RB as you can grab a RB in later rounds. As for Harris over Watt, I think I disagree. When I watched Wisc vs LSU game film, I seen Watt contain Fournette very well. He made a few single tackles on him and the only time Fournette had success running on Watts side was when Watt was doubled up. So I think he covers the run better. Whereas Harris vs West Virginia he was pushed out of his zone repeatedly. I dont know, Harris just looks too much like Coples out there. He shows flashes of being awesome, but takes plays off. Watt has more of a motor. They also drop Watt back into coverage as well. Anyway after today's combine, it seems like there are alot of DB's in the draft, so I can see them taking a few, maybe earlier than I have projected.
WTG Pulse! Looks like you did your Homework with the extensive analysis.... good job No one knows how draft day shakes out but this is a quite plausible scenario especially recognizing this draft is waist high in def talent and the later rounds are available I am going to be miserably if we cant trade down with Cleveland ..someone saying they grab Taylor and don't move up Well don't forget Chicago and San Fran also need QBs so they may deal with us I like all your picks from a to z actually ...however I would swap out Williams for P Mahomes at 12 if he is still there or even grab Howard theTE I have no problem with McCaffery at 33 hes a real gem Kamara also very good RB So far all Offense selections brilliant...lets keep it going with Garcia the OT at 39 ,a real sleeper and fills a big need.... save the OLB for that possible SR deal at 60 Ive banged the drum slowly these past 2 months how your best defense is a high powered offense..frankly its all I am concerned about considering this teams history of failure and big name def picks So Not being defensive minded I see you got some CBs to be picked up later... OK with me Just swap the DB at 70 for that TE Sprinkle ...jus saying if we don't have Howard ...Who is Chad Kelly QB ?? lol Keep up the good work Remember You WIN GAMES ON OFFENSE ...DEFENSE SEALS THE DEAL
You're welcome. I can totally understand not wanting to take a TE that high. The thing with Gronk however is that he was in the early days of the TE coming back into vogue. It's also difficult to compare drafts. We'd have to go back and look and see who went before Gronk in that draft and what team needs there were. I like Williams a lot, and wouldn't be unhappy with him. I think he could be a big help to the Jets' QB and be a true #1 WR. I just think Howard would have a bigger impact than Williams at this point. Young QBs need a TE as a safety valve and Howard would provide that in spades. Plus he would help in pass protection and with the rushing attack. He can also get deep down the seam and is a good route runner. McCaffery is very polished. There's no disputing that. I don't know about his having a lot to prove. He was a star and a Heisman candidate. IMO the primary need for an OLB is as a pass rusher, not as a run stopper. They have Jenkins and Lee for that. Dropping into coverage is important, but we need a speedy guy that has shown that he can produce consistently pressuring the QB and making stops behind the line. I haven't heard anything negative about Harris' motor before. If he does take plays off, the Jets have to decide if that's something they can fix with better conditioning or motivation. With Watt, even with his pedigree and his motor, with only one season as a starter and not great production, they'd be taking a big risk primarily because of who his brother is. If his last name wasn't Watt, I'm not sure they would give him that much consideration, but I could be wrong. I need to watch more video of him and Harris both. If Watt's the guy, great. Yeah, I think the best value for the secondary is in the draft, NOT FA. There are a LOT of excellent DBs in this draft. There is height, speed, press man coverage ability, great ball skills, you name it. They'd have those players cheap for 4 years. They're going to have to grossly overpay for any FA DBs, especially Bouye. I would expect Bouye to get in the neighborhood ($12-$13 million) of what Glennon is being projected a season ($14 million). For that amount or a little more, the Jets could sign a FA LT, a decent quality back up OG, or an OG, a TE, an ILB and a C for depth/competition.
I think you changed my mind on the defensive backs. Your right, better to draft a couple than pay for them in free agency. I disavow my own mock!
If we traded with Cleveland and got the 33, I'd do this. 12 overall, OJ Howard (TE, Alabama) 33 overall, Hassan Reddick (OLB, Temple) 39 overall, Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio St) Still working on the rest.
Yeah, they are fine. Alot of people now are very high on Howard. And Reddick is FAST! Samuel, I dont know, I feel burned a bit by that other Ohio St wideout we took..
Playing with fire with OJ Howard. The Bills might take him at 10. So who are you going to take then? BTW really like Hassan Reddick, but many including me see him as an inside linebacker that can rush the passer on certain downs / packages.
I think the Jets will draft Jabrill Peppers out of Michigan. He is hometown boy from Don Bosco, NJ who can play multiple positions and will a huge upgrade to our defense and special teams. I think the Jets will make some free agent pick ups to help multiple positions. Jack Doyle at TE!
But seriously, you will need a GREAT defensive / linebacker back coach, cause this guy lacks all of the technique to play FS / linebacker on a regular basis. Heck he doesn't even know what position he wants to play. In the 3rd round, I would take him.
I say remove Chad Kelly and insert Nathan Petterman...More pro ready I think that will appeal to Mac.
I love that kid he got the attitude but at #6 its too high for him he is a high risk high reward kind of guy physical freak and very confident man. Maybe we not the right team for him Jamal Adams is a much safer pick in that regard.
