prospect-Alan Branch

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  1. MeanGreen80

    MeanGreen80 New Member

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    He is a junior DT from Michigan and he is 6-6 335. He is rated as the top underclassman DT and even at his size had 5 sacks last year. He would be perfect for our system.
     
  2. Khan

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    Whenever I see him I think that, and hope that he'll go in a Haynesworth type spot like 20 or 21 (Where I want us to be, at least). But of course not have a rage problem like Haynesworth..
     
  3. Green Hurricane

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    A 3-4 Nose like him is almost guaranteed to go top 12 or so, I can't imagine him not being the first DT selected in this class (if he declares).
     
  4. Ibleedgreen18

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    He would definately go early top 20 guarenteed as his status would almost certainly grow from combine numbers, but he isn't a nose.

    Alan Branch is about 6'6 335 if I'm not mistaken...He is a prototypical 3-4 DE...Drawing a lot of comparisons to Richard Seymour

    3-4 DE are taller generally 6'5 or taller and have the weight of DTs like 330ish
    3-4 NT are shorter about 6'1-6'2 and about the same weight 335 range

    Yea though if anyone gets a chance to watch Michigan, Alan Branch is nasty and would be a perfect 3-4 DE making him someone the jets would have to think about if available and Lamar Woodley is just about the perfect 3-4 OLB prospect, so yet another person the jets might consider...
     
  5. Green Hurricane

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    Noses in a 3-4 can be of any height. If Marcus Stroud or John Henderson were in a 3-4, you think they'd be playing outside at DT? No, of course not. NT is probably the most important position in a 34 defense, if a guy's got the size and skills to clog up the middle, then he's a NT.

    As far as 34 DE's go, you're not going to find any that are up at or near the 330 range. The majority are in the 290 range, somewhere between that of a 43 DT and DE. Seymour himself is probably the biggest 34 DE you're going to find, and he's a shade under 310.
     
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    You are right that DEs are normally smaller around the 300 range I didnt mean the 330...but Height does actually matter for NT...Marcus Stroud or John Henderson would not be a 3-4 nose...they are too tall and would not get enough leverage for that position both are about 6'6 330...haloti ngata for the same reason was never scouted by 3-4 teams even though he has more than enough weight...the reason is that hes too tall...4-3 NTs are different than 3-4 NTs...

    3-4 noses in the NFL
    Vince Wilfork 6'2 325lb
    Casey Hampton 6'1 325lb
    Jamal Williams 6'3 350lb
    Anthony Adams 6'0 300lb
    Ted Washington 6'5 365

    Washington is the tallest and manages being that tall by being 365, stroud and henderson would not be 3-4 noses...great players but neither are a 3-4 NT...Players abilities are relative to what position they play...4-3 is very different than a 3-4 as all of us have learned this year...
     
  7. Darth Vader

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    you are completelt correct.

    and that means that Dewayne is just 15 pounds or so from being that beast inside we need
     
  8. Green Hurricane

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    Just because the players today are largely shorter doesn't mean that A player who's a bit taller can't be extremely effective at the position. Washington's 6-5, his being up there in weight doesn't really give him any more or less in the leverage department, so it shows that a taller DT can be a 34 NT in the NFL. Stroud and Henderson are, of course, even taller, but when it comes to controlling the line of scrimmage and overcoming leverage issues, they're dominant.
     
  9. Ibleedgreen18

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    3-4 nt and 4-3 dt are in fact different positions....similar but different players don't necessarily translate well from one to another especailly if they don't fit the build of what that position requires...

    There have been a lot DEs tried at OLB that failed because it is a different position...2 different schemes 2 different positions...
     
  10. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    How about this scenario:

    Take Branch with our first round pick.
    Trade our 2 second round picks and a late round pick to get back into the first and take whoever's left out of this bunch: Gaines Adams, Lamar Woodley, and Quentin Moses.

    Here me out on this:
    We use Branch as a DE. Drob has been getting penetration as of late. He has the prototypical 3-4 nosetackle height, and he's almost there with his weight (it might suit him to gain 5-10 more pounds). Kimo can rotate with Drob if Kimo is still around.

    We use the other draft pick to replace Hobson as an OLB.

    Imagine: Ellis, Drob/Kimo, Branch on the D-line
    B. Thomas, Vilma, Barton, and Woodley as the linebackers.

    I wouldn't mind seeing that. And I think it can certainly be done.
     
  11. Green Hurricane

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    I'm not denying that they are two different positions, but what I think you fail to grasp is that certain players are so skilled, or have certain talents, that they could play either at a very high level. What I've seen from Branch, like Stroud and Henderson, leads me to believe that he is one such athlete.
     
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    Settler dog: that still doesn't solve the fact that D-Rob can not play nose in the 34.
     
  13. SettlerDawg

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    It depends. From what I've seen lately, Drob has been getting penetration, and he is the prototypical 3-4 NT size-wise. I would like to see how he fares for the next couple of games. I just want to add big bodies on the D-line no matter what position. IMO we need to put Branch in our line.
     
  14. Richiebsweet

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    Alan Branch is a beast. Come draft day, I want the JETS to be smart and bring in some players that can contribute right away especially at DT, DE, and RB. We can also use a couple of guards.
     
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