Pre-Black Monday Mock Offseason

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  1. wildaces

    wildaces Banned

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    I am going to go on the assumption that Woody is going to make a real push to make our own superbowl, and thus, we will try to fix needs within free agency and the draft. I understand our cap implications, and will attempt to address those as well.

    (per nyjetscap.com)
    Current Players under Contract: 38
    Total Salaries: $141 Million
    Estimated Cap: $120 Million
    Cap Rollover: $5 Million
    Estimated Cap Space: -$16Million

    Current Jet free agents

    Yeremiah Bell - Walk
    Mike DeVito - Walk
    Braylon Edwards - $1 Million in 2013, upgradeable to $3 Million in 2014
    Nick Folk - Walk
    Shonn Greene - I really like Greene, he is a great closer IMO, but not for starter money. - Walk
    Lex Hilliard - Walk
    Dustin Keller - Walk (I would like to sign him, but he will want to much IMO)
    Laron Landry - 4 Year / $18 Million $7 Million Guaranteed 2013 $3 Million
    Brandon Moore - Retire
    Chaz Schilens - Walk
    Matt Slauson - Walk
    Bryan Thomas - Walk
    Jeff Cumberland - He has come on lately, and could be a viable option. Small contract 1 Year $750,000
    Austin Howard (2nd round tender offer) $2 Million in 2013
    Joshua Mauga - Walk
    Tanner Purdum - Walk
    Dedrick Epps - Haven't seen enough of him. - Walk
    Isaiah Trufant - Walk
    Darrin Walls - Who? - Walk
    Jordan White - Walk

    Total Player: 42
    Signing Total Cap cost ($6.75 Million)
    Total Cap Space ($-22.75 Million)

    Notable Cuts: (Cap Savings $30 Million)
    Calvin Pace - Save $8.5 Million
    Bart Scott - Save $7.1 Million
    Justin Smith - Save $12 Million
    Eric Smith - Save $3 Million

    Total Players: 38
    Total Cap Space: $7.25 Million

    Free Agent Signings (Prior to Draft): ($10. 5 Million)
    Andy Levitre - LG - Buffalo Bills 4 Year $20 Million with $9 Million guaranteed. 2013 $3 Million
    Connor Barwin - SOLB - Houston Texans - 5 Year $30 Million with $15 Million guaranteed. 2013 $5 Million
    Jason Campbell - BQB - Chicago Bears 1 Year $2.5 Million Dollar Contract with a chance to compete for starting job.
    Kevin Smith - RB - Detroit Lions 1 Year Vet Minimum

    Total Player: 41
    Total Cap Space: - $3.5 Million

    Trades:
    Tim Tebow to Jacksonville Jaguars for a 5th round pick, and the full contract transfers. Cap Savings ($2.5 Million)
    Mark Sanchez to Arizona for a 4th round pick and 30% of 2013 transfers and 70% transfers in trade. Cap savings ($3.85 Million)
    Darrelle Revis is traded to Tampa Bay for their 2013 1st round selection. (Cap Savings: $9 Million)

    Total Players: 38
    Total Cap Space: $12 Million

    Draft
    #1 Kansas City Chiefs - Manti Teo
    #2 Jacksonville Jaguars - Star Lotelelei
    #3 Oakland Raiders - Dee Minniner
    #4 Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Joeckel
    #5 Detroit Lions - Bjoern Werner
    #6 Buffalo Bills - Geno Smith
    #7 Cleveland Browns - Damontre Moore
    #8 Tennessee Titans - Jonathan Banks
    #9 Arizona Cardinals - Taylor Lewan
    #10 San Diego Chargers - Jarvis Jones
    #11 New York Jets - Dion Jordan
    #12 New York Jets - Chance Warmack

    #42 New York Jets - Mike Glennon
    #78 New York Jets - Marcus Latimore
    #108 New York Jets - Blidi Wreh-Wilson
    #114 New York Jets - Brian Winters
    #129 New York Jets - Connor Vernon
    #139 New York Jets - Travis Kelce
    #170 New York Jets - Graham Pocic
    #205 New York Jets - Michael Dyer

    UDFA - Marqueis Gray - Could this 6'5" 250lb QB turned WR play TE in the NFL?

    Total Players: 49
    Estimated Cap Spending for draft picks: $5 Million in 2013
    Total Cap Space: $7 Million

    Depth Chart:
    QB: Jason Campbell/Mike Glennon/Greg McElroy
    RB: Bilal Powell/Kevin Smith/Joe Mcknight/Marcus Lattimore (health)/Michael Dyer (of course 5 RB's is to many, but don't know whent Lattimore will be healthy)
    LOT: DeBrickashaw Fergusson / Brian Winters
    LOG: Andy Levitre / Vladimir Ducasse
    Center: Nick Mangold / Graham Pocic
    ROG: Chance Warmack / Vladimir Ducasse
    ROT: Austin Howard / Brian Winters
    TE: Jeff Cumberland / Travis Kelce / Hayden Smith / Marqueis Gray
    WR: Santonio Holmes / Braylon Edwards /Jeremy Kerley / Stephan Hill / Conner Vernon

    LDE: Quinton Coples / Sione Po'uha
    NT: Kenrick Ellis / Sione Po'uha
    RDE: Mohammad Wilkerson / Sione Po'uha
    WOLB: Dion Jordan / Garrett McIntyre
    WILB: DeMario Davis / Nick Bellore
    SILB: David Harris / Nick Bellore
    SOLB: Connor Barwin / Ricky Sapp
    CB: Antonio Cromartie / Kyle Wilson / Aaron Berry / Blidi Wreh-Wilson / Ellis Lankster
    SS: Laron Landry / Antonio Allen
    FS: Josh Bush / Antonio Allen

    Free Agents (Post Draft): Fill needs.
     
  2. JohnnyThaJet

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    Havent analyzed the entire thing but Revis for just a first? Cmon man, he's worth more than that.
     
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  3. JackTheFootballGuru

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    I really do like this. I don't want Revis traded, but if we know now we won't be able to resign him, might as well trade him for a force on our oline.

    In particular I like the Barwin signing. That would go a long way in making our defense capable and not forcing us to go olb early if it's not there in the draft.

    Campbell vs Glennon would be a very interesting competition. I would love to see that.

    I also wonder though... Is a first really all we could get for Revis? Another second and fourth would be huge. Pick up someone like Zach Ertz in the second?
     
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    I like it only concern I have is I've read it's likely the texans will franchise Connor Barwin if he can't be resigned
     
  5. NFL

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    I think we should trade Harris for a second or so and get Rolando McClain if released by the Raiders.
     
  6. Jeti

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    Trade Revis=Super Bowl push

    No
     
  7. laxin

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    I think its alright. Like the first three picks, but I think the 3rd is way to early for lattimore. He wasn't even a surefire 1st round pick at his best in this season... add in that horrible injury? and I have a hard time envisioning a team picking him earlier than the 4th. I would rather a fully healthy Leveon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Stepfan Taylor or Jawan Jamison in the 3rd than a player with two surgically repaired knees.

    I also think we could get more for Revis- maybe the 1st and a 3rd and a conditional pick next year.

    i think resigning Bell and Devito to small contracts if possible would be smart.

    Not sure if Barwin would come that cheap because of the premium put on passrushers, but he would be a solid addition for the right price.

    Really like Mike Glennon in the 2nd and Vernon and Dyer would be nice pick ups as well.
     
  8. Dom

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    lol revis is worth a little bit more than a first round prospect don't ya think?

    minus that, you put a lot of work into this so thats admirable. its something i'd definitely like
     
  9. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    no way am I trading Revis for 1 first.
     
  10. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of thought went into this; good job figuring out all of the contracts, etc. In not sure I love how many people we let go and I hate the Revis trade, but this is an interesting scenario.
     
  11. HardHitta

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    We can definitely get a 1st and 3rd for Revis and i don't like having Cambell as a our starter.

    Good stuff tho.
     
  12. BamaDoc

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    Landry wants a lot more than that and has indicated no hometown discount. Not crazy about QB but like my mock off season, I don't see an answer this year. I don't want to do it but like you I see Revis as best way to get something. Not sure you could get a one this year unless he agrees to a contract. If he does, I think you could get some future picks also.
     
  13. KerleyFries

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    Can someone give a reasonable explanation why Revis, who remind you is coming off of a season ending ACL surgery, is worth more than a first round pick? We rank #2 currently in pass defense without him. The Jets would have very little leverage in the trade. Everyone says he is worth more than just a first round pick, then neglects to give a justifiable reason for their statement.

    I would be incredibly happy with this draft. I love Dion Jordan, he is a monster at 6'6 and makes some terrific plays. He is my favorite pass rusher in this draft. If we could get him AND Chance Warmack, that would be awesome. Two solid starters at positions of great need on the first day of the draft.

    Then being able to pick up potentially the best QB prospect in the draft would be great too. However, I feel as though Glennon will shoot right up the boards into the first round.

    Lattimore is hit or miss with the third round pick, he most likely won't be able to play next year, but he could be the back of the future if he gets back on track.

    Travis Kelce is a huge target down field and also showcased his speed in the bowl game against Duke on an 83 yard touchdown.

    Blidi Wreh Wilson is a very experienced CB on a stout Uconn defense. He started over 30 games and was a difference maker on the field. He intercepted Teddy Bridgewater in the endzone in overtime to help uconn secure a win over ranked Louisville.

    All in all, I would be incredibly happy with this offseason.
     
  14. wildaces

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    Obviously, if we could get an additional 2nd and 4th, we would be in great shape for 2013. In this scenario, I would trade back into the first and pick up Tyler Eifert - TE - Notre Dame. An Alternative would be to take Alec Ogletree - ILB - Georgia. (Harris eventual replacement)

    I can appreciate that, but there is a ton of talent on defensive side of the ball. I can see them letting him walk with Cushing, Watt, Reed still on the roster, and pay days coming. Not to mention they just resigned Schaub, and Foster. If we couldn't sign him though, I would look at Anthony Spencer, since they play the position of 3-4 OLB. However, there are a lot of exciting players that could help, and most intriguing would be Cliff Avril, who will be let go.

    Trading Revis is our best chance of filling needs, not having the luxury of Revis and Cro. I am assuming just a single pick, but if we could get multiple picks, What would you say?

    I have no problem with picking up Bell in that position. My understanding was that he was a top 15 pick, and I couldn't pass up on the value. Running backs are a dime a dozen, but I really want a Lynch Mold, so Bell would be my second choice.

    If we could get an additional third for Revis, I would probably address center sooner. Preferably a center that could also function as a back up guard.

    Thanks for the recognition. I have about 1 and half invested in this.

    Assume we picked up an additional 1st next year if that helps.

    Thanks. I think trading Revis is the best way to improve our team in multiple areas. Most evident is the draft choice, but we would be able to sign any free agents if we keep him.

    If you can think of any other free agent that could start, please let me know. I also addressed the scenario if we were to pick up a 3rd above in this post.

    His injury concerns are going to prevent everyone from giving him top tier safety money. Landry is a must for this defense though, and we could invest a bit more if needed. An alternative would be to let him walk, and draft Eric Reid some how.

    Thanks! I also agree with Glennon, and believe we would have a hard time drafting him at #11 come April. However, right now he is a 2nd round prospect.
     
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  15. AlmightyRevis

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    Overall I am definitely a fan of the majority of the moves here, specifically relieving ourselves of all the dead weight (Greene and Keller included) and addressing the o-line and pass-rush through FA and the draft.

    I would only pray we could somehow trade Cromartie instead of Revis. Sad to see how many on this forum have resigned to the fact that we must trade our best player in order to be competitive.
     
  16. wildaces

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    I think is more that we won't be able to sign him in 2014, and now is the only opportunity to ensure that we gain additional assets in 2014. If we could sign Revis long term, and trade Cromartie, so be it.
     
  17. mj2sexay

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    I like the effort, but this loses any realism the second we get anything more then a conditional 7th for Sanchez. Furthermore in a draft where the QB class looks worse and worse every day, there's no way Glennon falls to our pick in the 2nd. He will be a first row pick come April due to some team getting desperate, seeing a mediocre class and talking themselves into him.
     

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