Post FA Mock Draft

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Round one

    1. Bucs - Jamies Winston QB
    2. Titans - Marcus Mariota QB
    3. Jaguars - Leonard Williams DT / DE
    4. Browns (and pick 67 from Raiders for pick 12 & 19) - Amari Cooper WR
    5. Redskins - Vic Beasley Edge
    6. Saints (from Jets for pick 13 & 44) - Randy Gregory Edge
    7. Bears - Kevin White WR
    8. Falcons - Dante Fowler Edge
    9. Giants - La'el Collins OL
    10. Rams - Brandon Scherff OL
    11. Vikings - DeVante Parker WR
    12. Raiders - Danny Shelton DT
    13. Jets - Shane Ray Edge
    14. Dolphins - Trae Waynes CB
    15. 49ers - Arik Armstead DT / DE
    16. Texans - Andrus Peat OT
    17. Chargers - Malcolm Brown DT
    18. Chiefs - Landon Collins S
    19. Raiders - Jalen Strong WR
    20. Eagles - Bud Dupree Edge
    21. Bengals - TJ Clemmings OL
    22. Jets (from Steelers for pick 37 & 70) - Todd Gurley RB
    23. Cowboys (and pick 119 from Lions for pick 27 & 91) - Melvin Gordon
    24. Cardinals - Jalen Collins CB
    25. Panthers - Cameron Erving OL
    26. Ravens - Dorial Green-Beckham WR
    27. Lions - Marcus Peters CB
    28. Broncos - Eddie Goldman DT
    29. Colts - Jordan Phillips DT
    30. Packers - Eric Kendricks ILB
    31. Saints - AJ Cann OG
    32. Patriots - Quinten Rollins CB

    Round 2

    33. Titans - Shaq Thompson OLB/S/RB
    34. Bucs- Erick Flowers OT
    35. Raiders - Jay Ajayi RB
    36. Jaguars - PJ Williams CB
    37. Steelers - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE
    38. Redskins - Brett Hundley QB
    39. Bears - Michael Bennett DT
    40. Giants - Carl Davis DT
    41. Rams - Devin Funchess WR
    42. Falcons - Carl Davis DT
    43. Browns - Max Williams TE
    44. Ravens (from Jets for pick 58 & 90) - Nate Orchard OLB
    45. Vikings - Phillip Dorsett WR
    46. 49ers - Denzel Perryman ILB
    47. Dolphins - Drvin Smith WR
    48. Chargers - Eli Harold OLB
    49. Chiefs - Laken Thompson OG
    50. Bills - Jake Fisher OT
    51. Texans - Benardrick McKinney ILB
    52. Eagles - Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB
    53. Bengals - Cody Prewitt FS
    54. Lions - Danielle Hunter DE
    55. Cardinals - Laken Thompson OG
    56. Steelers - Kevin Johnson CB
    57. Panthers - Duke Johnson RB
    58. Jets - Cedric Ogbuehi OT

    Jets Draft

    13. Shane Ray Edge
    22. (from Steelers for pick 37 & 70) - Todd Gurley RB
    58. Cedric Ogbuehi OT
    90. Nelson Agholor WR
    101. David Johnson RB
    198. Michael Orakpo Edge
    199. Tyler Varga- FB
     
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  2. Doogstein

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    Ravens won't take DGB. Ozzie has stated he will not take anyone with major character flaws in the draft. Also why take a 2nd RB if we trade up for Gurley? Much rather see an ILB or FS there. But if this is how our draft went, I would think we would all be completely ecstatic. Although it would be tough for me to see the Jets trade down with Fowler still on board being that he's my number 1 player for us
     
  3. Matt4776

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    There is a better shot of Flowers going in the top-10 than there is of him making it past 20.

    In terms of the Jets draft itself, I'm not crazy about it. First, trade downs are always unrealistic and difficult to predict, but I'll put that aside.

    I'm not nearly as big a fan of Ray as I am of Fowler. I went with Fowler in my draft because he's far and away the BPA (in my opinion of course). At the 13, I'd probably take Ereck Flowers. Our OL is going to look real ugly in a few years unless we start rebuilding it now.

    I also don't like trading back up for a RB, and it makes even less sense to acquire a second RB after trading up for one. That would mean we used three picks on this draft on RBs, which has become such an interchangeable position.
     
  4. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Flowers looked really stiff at the combine I am not a fan.

    I think Ogbuehi will end up as good or better in the pros.

    Even if Flowers is the better player the value is just not there in the top half of round one.
     
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    I could wind up loving or hating that draft primarily because of what you do in the 1st round. Trading down to get Shane Ray and passing up White, Fowler, Collins and Parker would not make me happy unless Ray winds up being a lot better than I think he will be in the NFL. Ray was very productive in college, but I'm not sure he has the size or speed to be that productive in the NFL. If the Jets want to take an OLB, why not stay put and take Fowler? I like the aspect of picking up additional picks, however, and Ray could surprise me. I like Gurley a lot, and although I don't know much about Ogbuehi, I like what I have heard, and agree that OT is a HUGE need in the draft. I like Agholor and Johnson, but why do the Jets need to take two RBs? I know Orakpo's older brother has been a great OLB for Washington, but haven't heard a lot about him. I really like the Varga pick.

    So there are some things I really like, others I don't like as much, and there is some potential there for it to be better than it looks on first impression. Interesting.
     
  6. wampa

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    In that mock, I'd rather sit tight in the first, take Kevin White, then take Jake Fisher or Nate Orchard in the 2nd. Really not a big fan of Cedric Ogbuehi.
     
  7. James Hasty

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    It is easy to make a wise pick at #6.

    To get a steal you have to pick a little lower.

    Also trading down for picks makes up for the planned move to burn our third rounder moving up for Gurley.

    Staying put and taking Fowler / Beasley at 6 would work but I would still trade up for Gurley and take another RB in round four (unless someone else fell that should have gone much, much earlier.
     
  8. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    http://overthecap.com/draft/

    Cap impact of trades is as follows:

    Traded away
    Pick 6 $3,002,182
    Pick 37 $970,442
    Pick 70 $602,813

    Total $4,575,437

    Aquired

    Pick 13 $1,858,000
    Pick 22 $1,514,745
    Pick 58 $676,224
    Pick 90 $570,880

    Total $4,659,849

    Although the draft picks we acquired cost $84,412 more we have added a player through the draft which knocks off at least $529,670 as one more player is knocked out of the top 51.

    Cap savings of the trades is at least $450K.
     
  9. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I really like the pick of Agholor. I think he will be a great receiver in the pro's. Not really liking the ray pick as he is kinda light. I think Fowler is a much better player. But all in all a very good mock.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

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    I missed the trade up. I would not like that at all. There are too many good RBs in this draft to fall in love with one and burn a pick trading up. For certain, the Jets don't need to take two RBs. That wastes another pick. I like this even less now. Also, you make it sound as if the purpose of the draft is to get steals. It isn't. It's great when you get one, but that shouldn't be your primary motivation. Nor is the purpose of the draft to save cap space.

    You sure do look at things from a "different" perspective.
     
  11. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!

    Ray is not my first choice at 6 but at 13 he would be nice.
     
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  12. James Hasty

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    You do realize that Ivory and Powell are free agents in 2016.
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    That's 2016. There are good RBs in every draft and RB is the easiest position in which for a rookie to start. When we have other needs, like ILB and TE, taking a second RB for 2016 would be silly imo. You'd have to cut another player that could help you this year in order to save that RB for next year. Makes little or no sense.
     
  14. James Hasty

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    This is probably the best RB draft ever.

    Passing up a RB this year would be like passing up a WR last year.

    How did that work out for us?
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    I'd say pretty well since we have Marshall and a chance to get another topflight WR this year. You don't draft a year ahead for a player you won't use, when you'd have to cut a player you can use in order to keep the other. Makes zero sense. RBs don't have the importance they once did in the NFL, and there are very good RBs in the draft every year. It means little that this may be the best RB class ever.
     
  16. CleveSteve

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    If you are targeting those two players I personally would swap Agholor and Ogbuehi. Agholor has got the best run-after-catch in the draft. He has that extra kick in his step... like he runs angry and I think he is a lock for the second round. He is also a very effective return man. JMO.
     
  17. James Hasty

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    I was targeting Ogbuehi.

    Agholor was a good value for the pick I had left over.
     
  18. jetfan59

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    Trading down would be a good idea in this draft so that the Jets can hopefully fill multiple needs in the first round. Ray is a prospect I liked a lot at first, but now I'm not sure what type of player he will turn into. He has a great motor, but he doesn't seem to possess many pass rushing and wins primarily with speed.

    Gurley has the potential to be a top RB in the NFL if he can stay healthy, so I don't have a problem with him being the target of a trade. Ogbuehi is a pretty good RT prospect, but he looked extremely uncomfortable at LT this year before he was injured.

    I like the Agholar and Johnson picks, but I don't think the Jets would double up on RBs in the draft. I like the Varga pick because he has the ability to play both FB and some RB at the next level.
     
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    Barf
     
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    Oh... Even if that were true which is very doubtful that it is.. not sure taking a RB coming off an ACL injury in the first round would be a very good idea.. If the draft is so great there would be other options.
     
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