“He should walk around with a T-shirt that says, ‘Who cares?’, and then underneath, ‘as long as we’re winning,’ ” Pennington said. “That’s the bottom line. In the NFL, there are no BCS rankings. There is no coaches’ poll. It strictly comes down to wins and losses.” Well, good luck with that if they lose one more game. THEN, Noodle Arm can we purely look at the QB play on the field? Thanks for the words old buddy but, IMO, if I ran the Jets I would never ever have a guy with a Chad-like Arm on this team in the North East....
His arm was fine, his body was the problem. If he was durable he would still be our QB. Even if the Jets miss the playoffs this year Sanchez will have helped us to 2 title games in 3 years, he's so much better than he gets credit for. Sure he can be maddeningly inconsistent(like many young QBs) but he makes plays to win games and that is most important.
The better comparison would be Freeman McNeil, much like Chad he wasn't durable but when he was healthy he was really, really good.
"fine" isn't enough IMO in the Northeast. I'm just so sick of 1 dimensional Offense where defenses cut the field and stack the box. This season to me has been such a grind I can barely recall 1 great moment. Even the Wins against #### teams barely allow me a moment of glory till the very end. Like Chad, Sanchez looks to me like a QB that doesn't have enough pocket awareness and takes bad hits / falls that could eventually cause a "fine" armed QB to quickly be way less than "fine"..... I just hope our next QB is stout enough to take hits, smart enough to avoid em, and has an arm that can challenge DB's. I know he hasn't done much yet but, I still and always would have rolled the dice with Josh Freeman because size and arm strength cannot be taught plus - I think Freeman would have had every bit of success so far in NY relying on a defense and running game for 2 plus years....
Heh! Yeah, that was my take on Chad's obviously self serving comments here. I don't intend here to say anything negative about Sanchez, but Chad's comments were pretty much "If you can handle the New York pressure as well as I did, you're great!" And much to Sanchez's credit, he has several comebacks on his record. Chad on the other hand never led the team back from more than a score down with twenty or fewer minutes left. Never. STFU Chadwick.
It was enough to win the division in 2002 becoming the ONLY team to win a div title besides the Pats in a year Brady plays. Down the stretch in '02 we played 3 straight cold, windy games and he was superb. He led us to wins over the Brady-led Pats(on the road), Favre and the apckers(playing for homfield) and Manning & the Colts. In those 3 games he was 59-82, 72%, 703 yds, 10 TDs, 0 INTs, 137.3 rating and led us to 38 PPG. His arm was more than good enough to play in the Northeast. IF he could have stayed healthy he would have been a top QB for us for many years and would still be our QB. W. him it was always about durability, he didn't have a great arm but he made up for it w/ smart play and timing. Sanchez actually does a good job avoiding big hits when he can help it. Plays like last week he couldn't control or some of those blind side hits but he has always been good at getting down before he takes to huge hit. Josh Freeman finally had expectations to win this year and he failed miserably. Imagine him coming here w/ the expectations to win day 1 like Sanchez had? We have a great QB situation for the next decade barring injuries.
"Only three quarterbacks have ever thrown for more yards in a Jets uniform than Pennington." with 66 yards against the chiefs, 25-year-old mark sanchez will move past norman "norman" esiason (aka norman) into 6th all-time among jets passers. 1. broadway 2. kenny o'b 3. dick todd 4. penny 5. vinny http://nashvillegman.hubpages.com/hub/New-York-Jets-All-Time-Passing-Leaders-Yardage
I actually imagine him playing with a much better OL, Running game and targets along with a much better defense. That decade talk warms my heart like the day the Islanders said Dipietro would be the Goalie for the next decade or when the Knicks told me Alan Houston would be a star for the next decade.... I have a pretty good track record sniffing the BS out on these things, unfortunately.
Yeah, no QB could win w/ Blount averaging 5 YPC and awful targets like Mikle Williams and Winslow. he arguably has better offensive talent around him than Sanchez has had.
Bill Parcells drafts with a few criteria in mind when he takes QB's. He wants three year starters in college and four is a bonus. He wants smart guys who can pick up the differences between the college systems and the pros. He wants accuracy. Arm strength has never been a guiding criteria for him, it's a tie-breaker. When the Jets took Pennington it was because he had all of the criteria except for arm strength. When the Dolphins took Henne it was because he had all the criteria. Which of those two selections do you think Parcells thinks was better in retrospect?
I agree on most of this although I do think Chad's arm strength was a limiting factor against tough pressure defenses in the playoffs. We might have won a Super Bowl with a healthy Chad, but it would have taken a really nice slate of opponents in the playoffs to get it. Something like Cincinnati, San Diego and Indianapolis and then Seattle or Arizona in the Super Bowl. I very much agree on us being set for a decade at QB assuming that the politics of the situation does not get out of control. If Rex Ryan keeps running his mouth and coming up short somebody is going to take the brunt of the abuse from the fans and Sanchez is the most likely target.
hmm. yeah, the point isn't really the amount of yards, per se, but that he's about to climb a rung on the ladder this week. which i thought was worth noting, but sorry for boring you.
Really? if we get down to "arguing" the TB offensive talent to the NYJ, it will make me ill - But, LOL @ Blount over Greene/ LT at this point or any point. The fact that you think we can compare the 2 makes me ill... What did Blount cost them again? Winslow over Keller - also makes me sick... Maybe a healthy Winslow of years past. And Mike Williams please - Over SANTONIO HOLMES, Burress, Edwards, even Cotchery... Mike WHO??? Now lets look at the OL... ahhhh, never mind.
i think its more of an indictment of the poor play of QB's in our history than it is the awesomeness of Sanchez. If Mark is the guy we expect him to be, no reason he shouldnt get into the top 2-3 for us. In fact, if he becomes the guy we all want him to be, no reason he shouldnt throw for 30k in green and white.
Under those rules I know a QB that he never would have sniffed around and bottom line, that's what we're stuck with right now. But, honestly, I don't look to Parcells as a QB guru. Henne was also a late 2nd round pick, IMO, a flyer for a QB. More like a Kellen Clemens comparison even though it wasn't Parcells.
The odds are pretty good that Sanchez throws for 30k yards in the NFL. Whether that will be all with the Jets or split between two teams remains to be seen. At the time that he turned 25 he had 3,000 yards more than Jay Cutler and 2,000 yards more than Drew Brees. He had 4,500 more yards than Tom Brady on his 25th birthday. Eli Manning was ahead of him by 132 yards. Peyton was ahead by more than 3,000. Ben Roethlisberger was ahead by 517 yards. Those are the only currently active QB's ahead of Sanchez in passing yards on their 25th birthday. Both Josh Freeman and Mark Stafford will be ahead of him when they hit 25. Both were just 21 when they started their first game in the NFL. Sam Bradford may also be ahead of him although the injuries make me wonder at this point.
i never said anything about awesomeness. just thought the list was worth a look. agreed: no one is mistaking our QB lineage with a list of Lakers centers or Yankees who wore single-digits.
