Pats still cheating on live TV

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  1. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Can't wait for your longform on how the Steelers are cheaters. After all, their game balls were deflated against the Giants. But hey, it wasn't the Patriots so who cares right?

    Simple question: were the Steelers/Patriots balls deflated because it was December/January, or did Brady and Big Ben want 0,05% of the air pressure to be deflated?

    Get a freaking life. They don't beat you because they cheat. They beat you because your organization is a constant clownshow who overpays over the hill players. Then fans celebrate those signings until they notice the signed player has nothing left and then they complain. And soon after the same thing starts from the beginning. Rinse and repeat.
     
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    He's actually a Steelers fan who comes here for allies in his anti P*triots mission. Please do not lump him in with us. We have enough of our own issues.
     
  5. Jetaho

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    This has nothing to do with the Jets - We suck. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Fuck the Steelers. They are a bunch of dirty thugs who also cheat.

    The Patriot Way is a comprehensive method that includes systemic cheating as part of their overall plan to gain and exploit every little edge they can over their opponents.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    As much as I hate the OP, he's right on the resetting of the play clock. The Pats do it all the time, and I don't get it. Seems pretty unfair.
     
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    Says the guy who posts on another team's forum.
     
  8. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Nah it was simply the deflator stealing the balls. I.e. Breaking protocol and covering it up

    Simple. Learn to accept it
     
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    Yes you do and I'm happy to see them looking for a new QB for next year in draft

    Hope they get the org right as the jets play it right
     
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    Yes the announcers even mentioned something about it.

    Does anyone know the official reason on why this would happen ? I know the play clock is 40 seconds so it's not a full reset . Would have something to do with them spotting the ball or something ?

    I know in the latest incident Brady makes the pump it up motion twice and after the second time the ref makes the same motion and the clock is set to 25.

    Interesting enough, the pats still would have had like 2-3 seconds left on the play clock even without resetting it .
     
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    We need Russia to hack Kraft's & Belicheat's emails so we can get to the bottom of this!
     
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    Don't stop fighting the good fight my man.
     
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    If you look at the picture, you can see the official hasn't completed placing the ball down at the 18 second mark. After he does this he then needs to go 10 yards or so behind the QB. That is why Brady is making the signal to the refs. This happens in EVERY football game at some point and the officials most of the time will reset the clock to 25 seconds.
     
  15. Sam Hammer

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    I hate the Patriots as much as the next guy, but this seems like the refs were late spotting the ball so they reset the play clock. Brady probably signaled for it for that reason. I wonder what the official rules are for spotting the ball and potentially resetting the clock.
     
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    I hate the Patriots as much as the next guy too. That is all.
     
  17. felker

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    I haven't been paying attention to Elvi's claims but there are a number of circumstances that can result in resetting the play clock.

    Here's the actual section from the NFL Rule Book:

    Section 6 Delay of Game 40-SECOND PLAY CLOCK
    Article 1
    It is a delay of the game if the ball is not put into play by a snap within 40 seconds after the start of the play clock. The play clock operator shall time the interval between plays upon signals from game officials. The 40-second interval starts when a play ends, unless Article 2 below applies.

    25-SECOND PLAY CLOCK Article 2 In the event of certain administrative stoppages or other delays, a team will have 25 seconds, beginning with the Refereeā€™s whistle, to put the ball in play by a snap or a kick. Such stoppages include, but are not limited to, the following: (a) a change of possession; (b) a charged team timeout; (c) the two-minute warning; (d) the expiration of a period; (e) a penalty enforcement; (f) a Try; or (g) a Free Kick.
    A 25-second interval will be used in these situations, even if the 40-second clock is already counting down.

    INTERRUPTION OF PLAY CLOCK
    Article 3
    If the play clock is stopped prior to the snap for any reason, after the stoppage has concluded, the time remaining on the play clock shall be the same as when it stopped, unless: (a) the stoppage has been for a charged team timeout, the two-minute warning, the expiration of a period, a penalty enforcement, or an Instant Replay challenge prior to the two-minute warning, in which case the play clock shall be reset to 25 seconds; (b) the stoppage has been for an Instant Replay review after the two-minute warning that results in a reversal, in which case the play clock shall be reset to 25 seconds; (c) the stoppage has been for an excess timeout while time is in that is charged to the defense, in which case the play clock shall be reset to 40 seconds; or (d) fewer than 10 seconds remain on the play clock, in which case it shall be reset to 10 seconds.

    BALL REMAINS DEAD Article 4
    If the ball is not put in play within the applicable period, the Back Judge shall blow his whistle for the foul, and the ball remains dead. See 14-6-Exc. 4.
    OTHER DELAY OF GAME FOULS Article 5
    Other examples of action or inaction that are to be construed as delay of the game include, but are not limited to, the following: (a) a player unnecessarily remains on a dead ball or on a runner who has been downed; (b) the snapper repeatedly snaps the ball after the neutral zone is established and before the Referee can assume his position (see 7-6-3-c); (c) undue delay by either team in assembling after a timeout; (d) a defensive player aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage makes quick and abrupt actions that are not a part of normal defensive player movement and are an obvious attempt to cause an offensive player(s) to foul (false start). (The Referee shall blow his whistle immediately.); (e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down has ended, except after a score; Penalty: For delay of the game: Loss of five yards: (a) from the succeeding spot if it occurs between downs. The ball remains dead; or (b) from the previous spot if the ball was in play.
     
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  18. Sam Hammer

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    Thanks for posting that. Very informative!
     
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