Ortiz: Vote for ME!!!

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  1. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2582790

    Ortiz says he should still be considered for MVP

    David Ortiz, the American League leader in home runs and RBI, says Boston's fall from the American League playoff race should not disqualify him from the race for the AL's Most Valuable Player award.

    But Ortiz told reporters after the Red Sox's 9-3 win over the Royals on Sunday that he thinks that's what's going to happen.

    "I'll tell you one thing," Ortiz said. "If I get 50 home runs and 10 more RBI [which would give him 137], that's going to be a round number that no one else in the American League will have."

    "But they'll vote for a position player, use that as an excuse. They're talking about [Derek] Jeter a lot, right? He's done a great job, he's having a great season, but Jeter is not a 40-homer hitter or an RBI guy. It doesn't matter how much you've done for your ball club, the bottom line is, the guy who hits 40 home runs and knocks in 100, that's the guy you know helped your team win games.

    "Don't get me wrong -- he's a great player, having a great season, but he's got a lot of guys in that lineup," Ortiz continued. "Top to bottom, you've got a guy who can hurt you. Come hit in this lineup, see how good you can be."

    Ortiz said if he had a vote, he might cast it for Jermaine Dye or Paul Konerko of the Chicago White Sox, or Justin Morneau of the Minnesota Twins.

    "All depends on who makes the playoffs," he said. "Dye is having an unbelievable season, an incredible year. Konerko, too.

    "Morneau, he's having a great season, but in Minnesota, there's no publicity. I bet you nobody knows who he is."

    Ortiz also noted that Alex Rodriguez won the MVP in 2003, despite the fact his Texas Rangers finished last in the AL West. That season, A-Rod hit .298 with 47 home runs and 118 RBI.

    "I'm right there," he said, "but I'm not going to win it. They give it to [Rodriguez] one year, even though his team was in last place, so now they can't play that BS anymore, just because your team didn't make it. They gave it to Alex that year because of his numbers. But they always have a reason to vote for whatever, so that's why I don't worry about it.
     
  2. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    Well with all the media sucking Jeter off, someone has to say something.

    Dye or Santana is the MVP.

    Not fagboy Jeter.
     
  3. GreyhoundJet

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    I am not quite sure why he is worrying so much about why he isn't going to win the MVP when his team is 10 games out of their division and 5-6 out of the wild card. Maybe he should just go back to playing and leave the voting for other people. Ortiz states in this interview the reason that Jeter should win it. You would never see Jeter take time in an interview during a playoff race to talk about the MVP. He would shoo the question away and say that all that mattered is that the team wins. And all that BS about not having a good lineup to hit in. He has Manny Ramirez behind him. You can't get much better than that. He gets so good pitches because you can't put him on with Manny behind him.
     
  4. ShadeTree#55

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    Maybe because he got shafted last year because he was a DH.

    Your dumb league has a DH, so they should be able to win the MVP.
     
  5. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    ortiz comes off really really bad here

    he's talking about the yankees lineup being strong when he's got manny hitting behind him?
     
  6. GreyhoundJet

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    They can win the MVP but I don't think he should win it this year. Jeter is batting .345 and has been an anchor in that lineup in the #2 slot. I just wish Ortiz would shut up and keep playing.
     
  7. wildthing202

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    He should win the MVP just look at what happened when he was gone and I call BS on the good pitches, they still walk him to get to Manny while in the NL the pitchers think Jeff Conine is a bigger threat than Ryan Howard as they pitch to him. He's out a week with a possible life threating condition and he's out of the MVP race why?
     
  8. ShadeTree#55

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    Oh he comes off bad, for sure. But no way is Jeter the MVP.
     
  9. GreyhoundJet

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    Just wondering, who do you think is the MVP? Ortiz?
     
  10. ShadeTree#55

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    Dye or Santana.
     
  11. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree, but his arguments against Jeter are pretty terrible. If you're going to open your mouth like this you better have something better then "come hit in our lineup" like he plays for the Royals, or "me hit HR, me good".
     
  12. GreyhoundJet

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    Ok, I actually like both of those choices especially Santana. He is having a great season but I don't agree as much with Dye. I think Jeter is having a similar numbers year but he is also leading NY to an easy division win. Maybe I am a little biased but personally I don't really care who wins the MVP as long as we do good in the playoffs.
     
  13. GreenMachine

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    The Sox fell apart when they lost Varitek...not Ortiz.
     
  14. ShadeTree#55

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    Its funny to think about Jeter and Ortiz, people actually believe that they are better players then Arod and Manny.

    The power of "clutch"

    LOL

    Manny and Arod are 2 all time great hitters, Ortiz and Jeter are not.
     
  15. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    great point... the MVP award was not meant for the player with the most outstanding stats, but the player that is most valuable to his team... the stats part is what the Silver Slugger and Hank Aaron Awards are for.

    In my opinion, the Red Sox's MVP is Jason Varitek. Their recrod didnt differ much in that week or two that Ortiz was gone. However, eversince they have lost Varitek, they have fallen from having the lead in the AL East, to being down by 10 games...

    Without Jeter, the Yankees team probably would not be anywhere near 10 games up, IMO.. That is why Jeter should recieve serious consideration for the MVP award, even if he doesn't get it.

    THe top four should be Jeter, Dye, Santana, and Ortiz.
     
  16. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    How fuckin valuable were you if your team doesn't even make the playoffs? STFU Magilla
     
  17. AMJets

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    Ortiz isn't even the best hitter on his team, and the Sox aren't even going to make the playoffs, I'm not quite sure why he thinks he should be the MVP. It will be either Dye or Jeter.
     
  18. wildthing202

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    Why not ask A-rod that?
     
  19. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Arod,unlike Magilla will be in the playoffs though. I'm not a Big Arod fan,so unless he proves me wrong and does something this Oct..........
     
  20. wildthing202

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    When did the Texas Rangers get in the playoffs? As I remember A-rod won his first MVP while playing for a last place team so....why can't Ortiz win again?
     

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