I know they're are guys who love D'Brick and really wanna strenghthen our O line and guys who want to take the Franchise QB now. Who has the more convincing argument?
I don't want either of those bums. We need to either trade down or take bpa. We have so many holes to fill it doesn't matter what position we draft.
There is no question Cutler at #4 is a huge reach. All the coaches on NFL Network last night said with a very high pick, take a guy regardless of position but DO NOT REACH. Ferguson is a 10+ yr starter if he remains healthy. That's the only question with him... his health. Adrian Jones did not show me anything last year. He may as well wore an orange pilon halloween costume, because he got it's actions down well.
Brick! O-line is the most important unit in football. They allow a QB to succeed. There are some great athletes like maybe v.young mcnabb or others whose mobility helps but without a decent O-line no QB goes anywhere. Every draft pick is a risk cause noone can guarantee how players will do but I'd rather take Brick cause of his position. He could hopefully give our QB time. Drafting cutler and starting him in his rookie season behindour patch-wokline does not sound good to me.
Games are won and lost in the trenches. We all saw how Alex Smith did without a team in San Fran. We don't need to see Cutler doing that here.
If Chad stays you gotta think brick, else you have to think about the franchise Qb. BUT I agree that if a trade presents itself that will let you get more picks then that would probaly be the best choice.
Here's the way i figure our offseason. We can go two ways make or d elite, or make our o respectable. If we go with d we can trade down and pick up Greenway and Watson in the 2nd. If we go o we should only rebuild our o-line. Face it next year we won't win the super bowl so we can draft a running back next year. I just can't make myself believe that Cutler is as good as everyone on this board makes him out. He Just hasn't convinced me he can be a great player, at the senior bowl when he finally played with a great team around him he didn't do much, where as D Brick absolutly dominated 1st round picks is pass pro. D Brick is the real deal if we're looking for a dominating LT than we should draft him.
D'Brick weighed in at 312 pounds. So that 295 we all heard was wrong. This completely changes my mind about him. I feel much more comfortable with him now
I'd like to point out that another OT prospect that was projected to be a 10+ yr starter, picked #4 in the 2002 draft - Mike Williams - has just been CUT. Brick is no lock to start 10+ yrs based just on health. I also think your analysis of A Jones has more to do with your love of Brick than an honest evaluation of A Jones. He performed admirably last season. We can only expect him to get better and develop more as this season goes on. Best case scenario for the Jets - Vince or Leinart fall to 4 so that we can get even more value when we trade down for more picks to fill more holes.
Hindsight is 20/20. He isn't asking you to compare to previous years as there are tons of hit or misses with every single position early in the draft. Convince him that the team needs one position more than the other or that Cutler is a better player than Ferguson!
The best would be to trade our pick down to the Faders and pick up a second our third round pick and Then Draft D'Brickashaw Ferguson. I agree with what people have said and my take on the O line is that we need to build it up because having a solid offensive line can elevate your game. We need all the elevating we can get. We need to protect our quarterback and Drafting D'Brick would be one of the best ways to do that.
Grumpy today eh, well on a side note with Brick being 312 pounds I would take him, I want no part of Cutler. I would much prefer Deangelo or trading down and getting Maroney, McNeill and quite possibly Gilles, If Gilles lasts until our first 2nd rounder or if we have the option of making a pacjage and moving up a few spots to get him
There are still far too many variables in the air right now. Maybe, somehow, Young or Leinart fall to us (I know, dream on...). But if so and you're not for Cutler at #4, certainly you'd be for one of those two, no? I also believe our #4 pick has increased value, even as recently as yesterday afternoon when Ferguson made quite an impression at the microphone in Indianapolis. "I am a beast," he said, "my job is to be a bodyguard at all costs. (paraphrasing)." If his weight is really 312 (and he can handle it), that adds to it. Those in the camp that say "trade down" have a stronger case to argue now. Either way, it's really getting interesting. Can't wait for the draft and for camp to start...
Big Ben, Tom Brady, Manning, Brees, Palmer, Delhome........ These teams do well because of the QB We need a QB to grow this team with, not another LT...
those guys all have a guy to protect them, our line looks like swiss cheese, either way we need a line or you end up with David Carr syndrome
Drafting Brick would be almost as bad as the Knicks trading for Steve Francis when they already have Stephon Marbury. Brick is far from proven, and he can bust just as easily as Cutler. With that being said, draft a potential franchise QB and fix the OL later in the draft or through free agency. This team is rebuilding and adding a piece which is already there would be stupid.
