I guess no one wants to talk about this fight, oh yeah thats right because everyone hates the U and wants to make them look bad. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2629760 Police, colleges probe Dartmouth-Holy Cross fight Associated Press Miami and FIU weren't the only college football teams involved in a brawl last weekend -- players from Dartmouth and Holy Cross fought at the end of their game when the teams lined up for postgame handshakes. The fighting started on Dartmouth's Memorial Field after Holy Cross won 24-21 in overtime Saturday. After Holy Cross players celebrated atop the Dartmouth "D" painted on the field, fights broke out between the teams when the Division I-AA teams lined up for customary handshakes. Witnesses said some players were thrown to the ground and kicked. Coaches, campus security and Hanover police broke it up. Dartmouth players who threw punches instead of shaking hands at the end of the game may face discipline or arrest, college and police officials said. "What we observed was a lot of pushing, shoving, some punching, some kicking when people were on the ground," police chief Nicholas Giaccone said. "We would break up one group, then another group would flare up. We'd get in the middle of that and another group would flare up." The melee lasted a minute or two, Giaccone said. He heard of no injuries among players, or among the coaches, Dartmouth security officers or police officers who ran onto the field to break things up. The game wasn't televised and the fight so unexpected and short that the cameraman filming the game for Dartmouth caught only the end. Giaccone said the video hasn't been very useful, but said this was nothing like the helmet-swinging, player-stomping brawl between Miami and Florida International on Saturday. "I don't remember seeing anyone using a helmet as a weapon," he said. "It was not any type of fighting situation. There was a lot of screaming, yelling and physical contact." Giaccone said punches were thrown, but he's relying more on memory than video. "For me to say what an individual person was doing ... there was too much going on," he said. "We were out there ourselves with limited protection. They've got all that equipment on." The chief said officers are speaking with players to see if they can shed any light on how the fight started. At Dartmouth, sports information officer Kathy Slattery Phillips said the school is trying to figure out what video is available and who might be disciplined. Holy Cross sports information officer Charlie Bare didn't immediately return a call seeking comment Tuesday. Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press Yet even this they attack miami and they dont mention the swinging crutch. A fight is a fight, and if it was so bad, why are there going to be possible arrest in this fight and none in UM FIU fight
1 incident, lets compare that to many incidents over the years. I see pushing, shoving, and some kicking, no helmet bashing to the back of the head or stomping on calves. Plus I wouldnt see Dartmouth or Holy Cross fans defend this. I also dont see these teams getting players arrested all over the place, and do you think these schools would accep a player who was arrested over 10 times in high school? Clemson and USC suspended themselves from bowl games after their fight last year(which was not as bad as Thug U's fight) Also read your own articles: With that said I hope there are suspensions(more than 1 game). A guy on Auburn got 6 games for underage drinking, at the U you can kill somebody and you only get a 1 game suspension per person killed.
Did an a former player turned broadcaster threaten to go onto the field and join in the brawl, as former 'cane Lamar Thomas did the other night? TBTF
yeah, throwing punches and stomping on people on the ground isnt different. yeah ok. Yet this isnt there first fight between the two teams.This even had the stomping of the logo in the middle, which is considered on onfield incident. You people need to lay off miami seriously.you people call them thugs, oh so it has to be a racist thing to call them thugs then since people in darthmouth and holy cross cant be thugs huh because they are high class colleges. You want to bash programs then bash everyone don't turn your head away from everything. Point out 2 stupid moves by 2 players and throw it on the whole team. Yes let's also bash a former player, yet Keith Hernandez can degrade women on a Mets broadcast and he can keep his job right. And you are picking on lamar for just saying "He felt" like going down there. Give me a break. And i dont respond to a moron who compares a fight to killing a person. that is just plain ignorance. If you are refering to past events from a player who has already left the university then again you are a moron because they are out of the university.
I'll be entirely consistent. There wasn't anything good or wholesome between Dartmouth and Holy Cross. That still doesn't mean that comparing them isn't a reach. The problem with UM is not us. It's UM. It's Larry Coker. It's Donna Shalala. It's the UM Trustees. It's the ACC, who deferred to UM in levying punishment. I'll actually place less of the blame with the players. They're kids. They should know better, but we understand a little bit easier when they don't. It's the adults-in-charge that I blame for letting the culture of the team get to the point where the perception - rightly or wrongly - is of Thug U. You see where I'm going here? It doesn't matter one whit whether UM is actually bunch of thugs. They could be a whole gang of church-singing choirboys. It doesn't matter. The national perception is of thugs. And, like it or not, perception is reality. Players only spend two years on the field. The perception was there before them, and it will remain after them until something changes. One final word on this whole thing about people "hatin' on The U." It's rubbish. I'm no fan of The U. They are a rival to my own team. However, I WANT Miami to have a strong team because that raises the reputation of the entire ACC. I don't want UM to be relegated to the same class as a Wake Forest or a Duke. That would be idiotic of me. That hurts the entire ACC. The SEC is KILLING the ACC in talent and quality games these days. That's as BAD thing. I want UM to compete and win the in-state recruiting battles. Lastly, I want Miami to have a classy team, because that's what I like to watch - but maybe that's not for everyone.
I agree somewhat, Reddick was punished accordingly, Merriweather however was not. Miami has dropped in talent, but not in class, i mean the media is getting all over Miami about this and beside the mention of FIU, they dont bother their school. You have the 2 worst of the fight for Miami come out and speak out to the media, yet the ones who slammed the holder and kicked him in the head havent said anything. I am in no regard defending the fight, but i understand. Me being 21 and playing sports in highschool and college level, you see your team mate get roughed up, you step in. Not every player stepped on someone or swung a helmet. Yet those actions are being amplified to the max to the point where you hear about it and think everyone swung a helmet and stepped on their heads. Coker im disgusted on it. However i believe Shalala did the right thing saying they are not going to lynch these kids for the sake of saving the program. Because no matter what they will always think that way and im glad they aren't worrying so much about their rep. Merriweather is the only one i disagree with. Because one, Charlie Jones, Brian Monroe, Randy Philips and others did nothing wrong beside fight to save their teammate, and even monroe was being punched on the ground. The one game is fine for them. THats what i think and i think it is unfair to compare the rest of these kids to the kids that existed in the Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson eras because they havent done any thing close to that. And for those of you who say Clemson and SC wasnt so bad, please see this and tell me that again. http://img.stern.de/_content/53/26/532610/_S_CAROLINA_CLEMSON_BRAWL_S_600.jpg
This is how I get down on a topic like this: I'm as big a fan of "THE U" as the best of them. But, there is no way that anyone can excuse what had happened against FIU. Granted, everyone knows who "THE U" is and many people don't even know what FIU stands for; I bet many don't even know what the nickname of FIU is without looking it up!! With that being said, it does not matter who started the fight (Although FIU did), "THE U" is all that anyone is going to take notice of. Hell, that's what happens when you have a past that precedes you! I think that Larry Coker should have been gone and President Shalala needs to take more responsibility for the state the program. What really pisses me the F*** off though, is the fact that a jackass like Lamar Thomas condoned the actions while sounding as ignorant as hell doing it! Secondly, the fact that Anthony Reddick had initially gotten a one game suspension. Mind you all, this is the same guy who had taken a few shots at a guy (Gun shots), when Willie Cooper was shot before the season had begun. What the hell is he even playing for? Why the hell are they so shocked about him hitting someone with a helmet when he had proven recently to be dangerous when "HE" thought that it was necessary? Finally, we as black people are fighting the uphill battle every damn day. It's unfortunate that there are enough people in our society who just look at us as a bunch of n*ggers anyway! For these people to go out there and do almost what is expected of them, accentuates the points of ignorance that one or more may have about us. Face it, how many people really think that most of the players at "THE U" even plan on graduating or actually can even if they tried? This is all unfortunate and should not have happen, but, it is what it is.
and how would reporting this fight as well not made Miami look bad for their incident? Miami looks bad because of their own actions, regardless of whether other fights are reported.
