Official 2022 Jets Training Camp

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  1. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

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    I think you should relax on the conclusions and long term concerns a week into camp. Seems like you want to find reasons to write Zach off, especially with the previous post about him being Tim Couch or something.. Let it play out a little more guy.
     
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  2. KY Jets Fan

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    Just to add some context to this whole CS/Zach’s growth debate…




    From my viewpoint, seems like the CS has already seen growth in Zach’s play and believe it’s only a matter of time before all of us see that as well.
     
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  3. ouchy

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    I hadn't posted about Wilson in weeks, except to say it looked like he had some good learning moments last Thursday? Never compared him to Couch either.

    Its not unfair or unrealistic to point out that the HC and OC had different timelines for when they thought Zach might show improvement - or that there is nothing shown to hang our hat on yet. No need to tell me to let it play out. I've always been a wait and see guy. When the time comes if Zach plays well I'll cheer, in not, I'll grumble.
     
  4. Ralebird

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    From my viewpoint the spin doctoring is already at mid-season form. What else would these guys be saying at this point, especially with "positive vibes only" being the new slogan. I see Saleh is still wearing last year's "All gas no brakes" shirt - how did that work out?
     
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  5. abyzmul

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    I don't get the concern of a ball in the dirt thrown to a back. I have seen Tom Brady dirt balls thrown to backs in playoff games.
     
  6. ouchy

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    I'm pretty sure if the coaches and this message board remain positive, that it will translate into at least 3 more wins.
     
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  7. Dierking

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    reaching North Carolinian elevations
     
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  8. Ralebird

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    "You don't know anything about football."
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That's okay. I'll just use my biting wit to scare away all of the heavy hitters. BAM!
     
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  10. LAJet

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    There were a couple last practice I believe, where he had two would be sacks. Not that it means much at this point.
     
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  11. joe

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    Wonder what D.J. Reed's pick-six take on Zach was 100 yards later?..

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  12. RonPi

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    I'm having a hard time understanding where this idea that Zach has to show improvement in the first week of camp. I don't expect to see anything from anybody in camp except shaking off the rust for the first half, then in the second half *in some actual games in preaseason* I might be able to judge a little if Zach has improved. Opposing teams know his weaknesses from last year so they will target them again in preseason to see if he can handle them, then we might know something. But I expect to see, if he really has ability, gradual improvement throughout the season. Don't you?
     
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  13. Jedi mind tricks

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    The concern is Wilson consistently missed wide open short throws into the dirt last season and a lot of us hoped this would be one of the first things he cleaned up this year. It's actually a big worry for me now.

    Sidenote: I admit I haven't read every post in this thread but I haven't heard a peep about Jermaine Johnson anywhere. Any news/tidbits on him? Media was hyping up our 3 1st rd picks now all I hear about are Sauce and G. Wilson
     
  14. REVISion

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    I find it hard to get excited about comments like these. If you're a coach or coordinator and a reporter asks about your young QB's progress, what can you say other than something encouraging? Even if they hadn't seen any progress they'd never say that publicly.

    When there's only one reasonable answer a media-savvy coach can give then how valuable is that answer? Not very I don't think.

    Not saying Zach hasn't shown progress, just that I don't think these comments are necessarily proof of it. We will need to see it on the field.
     
  15. Ralebird

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    The idea is probably coming from that group here that has the Jets winning half their games and getting into the playoffs as Zach Wilson moves to the top half of the league in quarterback performance. The guys who post things about some massive improvement he allegedly made the end of last season and that the personnel changes made in the offseason have put the Jets past that tipping point towards success before anyone showed what they could do on an NFL field. Kind of exactly like those who said the same things a year ago.
     
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  16. FJF

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    Oh shit, really?
     
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    The first real test will come on September 11 against Baltimore.
     
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  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, his short touch is something that was a big issue, but this is the errant pass that you want him throwing. Not the back corner fade that gets taken 100 yards to the house.

    I've read the beat guys saying it's nearly impossible to get a read on the rushers without pads, so I took that as they weren't really looking that hard at them. He might have had moments that they missed, but you do want to hear more about him. Even Bryce Huff got some run.
     
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  19. LAJet

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    Agree with this completely. Last sentence especially. But those expectations IMO are not as much coming from people that expect improvement, or those expecting a large improvement, but rather those that since day one proclaimed Wilson a failure, and they are happy to confirm it at every opportunity. Much as the year of bitching and moaning about Becton and his weight. This season should tell us plenty as to where Wilson future lies, as well as Becton for that matter. The rest is noise
     
  20. cval

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    Nope it is clear that after one day in pads Zach is a bust.
     

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