Nine Games in, and Zach Wilson has Five TD Passes.

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  1. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Now, we can all understand on the surface just how putrid that is, but lets examine this a little closer:

    • Wilson has essentially started 9 games this season ( I know Rodgers technically started Game 1, but he blew his achilles tendon on the first drive, which is essentially a ninth start for Wilson.) Currently, seven QBs in the NFL have more TD passes than Zach Wilson while starting fewer games (Garoppolo 7, Watson 7, Young 8, Stafford 8, Fields, 11, R Wilson 16, Cousins 18).
    • Kirk Cousins is out for the season. It is highly unlikely that Zach Wilson will match his TD Total while potentially playing twice as many games
    • In his worst Season, while going 2-10 as a starter, Sam Darnold managed to throw 9 touchdown passes. Zach Wilson has twice as many wins as a starter this season with slightly more than half his TD Passes.
    • Speaking of Sam Darnold, He threw 19 TD Passes in 2019, one less than Zach Wilson's entire career.
    • Bill Belichick has decided to sit Mac Jones, despite Jones throwing twice as many TD Passes as Zach Wilson this season (10)
    • There are three non-qb's that have just four less TD passes than Zach Wilson (Keenan Allen, Devin Singletary, Derrick Henry)
    • Yet despite all I have listed above there is reason for optimism: Zach Wilson is just one touchdown away from matching his total for last season, in which he started... nine games.
     
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  3. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    You said it, Sam.
     
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    semperfigreen Well-Known Member

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    According to some posters here its not his fault. He sucks. So does this franchise.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Are you "Some posters"?
     
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    semperfigreen Well-Known Member

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    I just said in my post he sucks. Am I?
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    You are what you are.
     
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    semperfigreen Well-Known Member

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    Ok. Great answer
     
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    Sure the offense has other problems. But I don't get how you can say he's not the main problem. Nothing has changed in any significant way with him. He's never had it. And just about every QB stat backs up the eye test: he's a historically bad QB. And every other QB who plays in his place under the same conditions looks competent.

    If you give him a top OL and say Davante Adams, he's still not going to be any good.

    But hey, 98% of people knew that last year. Our GM unfortunately was in the 2%..... What a joke
     
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    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I don't know what to say anymore. My passion for NFL football is on life support.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps an NFL Quality QB on your favorite team might help?
     
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    At this point its not even Zach Wilson's fault any more- he is who he is, everyone knows it, the fault is with a coaching staff that keeps trotting him out there and a GM who categorically refused to sign a veteran backup behind Rodgers or to sign one of the numerous crumby-but-still-better-than-Zach-Wilson free agents available after week one. There is an absolutely absurd commitment to Zach Wilson- I've said it before, but its like Joe Douglas thinks he's doomed if he admits drafting Zach Wilson was a mistake, when the thing dooming him is losing- nobody's calling for the heads of the 49ers leadership despite whiffing even worse on Trey Lance.
     
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    Trey Lance matched Zach Wilson's 5 TDs in 2021 with only two starts.
     
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    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    People are confusing the main problem overall with the main problem last night. He was not the main problem last night, but he is absolutely the main problem overall. Followed extremely closely by the coaching staff.
     
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    Well hello there, self fulfilling prophecy!
     
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    Jimmy Garoppolo has been benched while throwing three more TDs than Zach Wilson. He also has an almost 10 point higher third down conversion rate than Zach Wilson.
     
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    and gets paid to do Subway commercials!
     
  19. jcass10

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    This is why I'd like to see Simien or Boyle back there, if even for only a couple games.

    I'd like to see what the offense looks like with other players as a means to evaluate Zach. If Simien comes in and leads some touchdown drives, it could potentially change my evaluation of Zach, play calling and offensive line. If he comes in and lays a giant egg, we know for certain that upgrades are needed.

    At this point, I don't see why you don't even try. The offense is unbelievably broken, maybe a new QB sparks something a bit.
     
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    Of those 5 one was all Breece on a screen and another was crazy catch by Garrett on a below average throw so that's really down to 3 now. As if we need more evidence that he's full of suck juice (abyzmal, 2023).
     

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