By BARRY WILNER, AP Football Writer May 10, 2007 NEW YORK (AP) -- Americans always seem to want more pro football. Yet it's the folks abroad who might be getting an extra taste of the NFL in the future. Although talks are extremely preliminary, the NFL is investigating adding a 17th regular-season game and playing it outside the United States. The extra game would take the place of one in the preseason, allowing every team to play once abroad without sacrificing a home match. ADVERTISEMENT This year, the Dolphins gave up a home date in Miami to play the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium in London. Two years ago, the Arizona Cardinals played a home game in Mexico City against the San Francisco 49ers. "It is preliminary, but we certainly are putting resources into pulling that together," said Mark Waller, NFL senior vice president, international. "For now, we have the one game per season or two per season outside of the U.S. But we know it can be tough on home fans since we're taking a game away. "So we have asked how do we create more inventory without taking games away from fans? That idea came up in internal conversations and we now have an international committee of owners and we talked it through with them, and they asked us to do some groundwork." While the 17th game won't get off the ground next season, for sure, it could become a staple of the NFL's schedule by 2009 or 2010. But it would present some significant logistical and scheduling challenges. For one, if there is another week to the regular season, does that mean openers played on Labor Day weekend, something the NFL has avoided in recent years? Or does it mean pushing the Super Bowl back a week to the second Sunday in February? Or leaving the title game where it is and eliminating the week off between conference championships and the Super Bowl? "I don't see a huge downside to a week later. The strength of the idea warrants bringing it up for discussion," Waller said. And what about during a Winter Olympics year such as 2010? "It might be an issue for the Olympics," he adds with a laugh. Where would the "foreign games" be played? And how would they be divided? Waller notes that there won't be 16 different venues for the 17th games. More likely would be a "mini-season ticket" of perhaps four games in one city or country. "It is very early, but our thought is what we could end up with is every week there would be one international game," he said. "We won't have all of them on the same week. And what you would do is look at taking, for instance, four games to London. Play a game in Wembley each month, having eight different teams coming through. A game in September, one in October, one in November and one in December. "It's a great opportunity from a fan perspective, because they get half of what a fan in the United States gets, four games to eight." Aside from England, other prime areas to get games would be Germany, which has a half-dozen quality stadiums thanks to last year's World Cup; Mexico; and Canada. Waller doubts Asia or Australia would be targeted because of the travel concerns, but he doesn't dismiss anything. Or anywhere. "It is a complex idea and it will take a lot of work on a number of sides," Waller said. "The beauty of it is it's competitively fair." ------ I'm completely amazing at how motivated the NFL is to get this international thing done in some way. Just amazing.
personally i am for expanding it to 18 games and cutting the preseason down to 2 games....... also separating the conference championships and SB by only one week. of course there are plenty of ramifications to this - roster implications, scheduling, etc and not to mention advertising, media, TV etc etc jil
NFL considers adding 17th game http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2866680 as long as they don't send the Jets to Iraq for a game, im down with it
There has been talk of a 17th game since Namath was still playing. Even an 18th and shortening the preseason to 2 games. Maybe this time it will happen.
europe form NYC isnt that bad and maybe west coast teams go to central america? im not really for it though
That is a horrible idea...the season is already long and demanding enough. The league is asking for more injuries.
Horrible idea, and not because the season is too long. Right now, scheduling is easy. You play: * The rest of your division twice (6) * One other division revolving every 3rd year (4) * One division in the other conference every 4th year (4) * The teams in the other 2 divisions in your conference who finished the same place as you (2) Ok, so where do you get game 17 from? One of the 6 teams in your conference you did not play yet, or from the other conference? Either way sucks. At least now, there is a rhyme or reason for it. Not for game 17. Team A plays a 14-2 team, Team B plays a 2-14 team.. that's fair. I know, this happens anyway, but at least there is a formula, and it's OBJECTIVE not SUBJECTIVE. Game 17 would be subjective. 6 of 16 (37.5%) is a decent amount of in division games to decide the winner of the division. Anything less and it's not the same.
Yeah, I really like how they do the scheduling now. It makes a lot of sense. The only thing is that if they kept it at 16 games, some teams would have to play only 7 home games and technically 9 away games every year if they wanted to have games in Europe.
I see no need for games in Europe though. They had a big league, and couldn't support it. The league now is 6 teams 5 in Germany.
The Pros for more regular season games. 1 - Less chance of a preseason injury 2 - More money for players and owners The Cons 1 - Less time to evaluate rookies The union has always wanted more regular season games and less preseason for the reasons above. Namath was the biggest advocate of it. Remember they use to play 6 preseason games and he was put out for the year twice in the preseason. He only wanted 2 preseason games way back then.
18 games = 1 game against everyone in your conference and return games within the division, brings a new element to the postseason! Or not...
And none against the other conference? Will NEVER happen. Means some cities NEVER EVER have a chance to see a particular superstar (noone specificially, just talking in general) in person.
