the Jets traded: #35 (2nd round) - 2006 #211 (7th round) - 2006 #89 (3rd round) - 2007 #191 (6th round) - 2007 They gained: Kellen Clemens (#49) - 2006 Thomas Jones (#37 equiv) -2007 David Harris (#47) - 2007 Chansi Stuckey (#235) - 2007 I have questioned this front offices management style, and handling of existing talent. However, they have some knack come draft day! If Clemens develops into a player, i don't think they could've possibly done better. Everyone they got as result of the snowballing #35 trade in 06, could potentially have a major role in 08. Thanks Washington and Chicago! :wink:
Doesn't quite work. David Harris and the 235 pick cost the 63 pick, the 89 pick and the 191 pick. So it would look more like this: The Jets traded: #35 (2nd round) - 2006 #211 (7th round) -2006 #63 (2nd round) - 2007 #89 (3rd round) - 2007 #191 (6th round) - 2007 They gained: Kellen Clemens (#49) - 2006 Thomas Jones (#37) - 2007 David Harris (#47) - 2007 Chansi Stuckey (#235) -2007 The way things are stacked right now there is a very real chance that by 2010 everything on the top turned into just David Harris. That's just a worst case scenario but it's plausible.
Ahhh, but where did that #63 come from?? We traded the #37, courtesy of Wash, to Chicago for T Jones and the #63. We then turned that 63, along with 89 and 191, to Green Bay for Harris and Stuckey. It actually does net to those 4 picks for those 4 players. Based on this alone, I can't wait to see how the Jets manage this draft. Very unpredictable, due to their tendencies to move in draft order.
why do you always consider or use the worst case scenario as an example? that's like me saying: best case scenario, they all make the the Pro Bowl by 2010 and then those trades are genius.
I use the worst case scenario frequently, because the worst case scenario is what happens to the Jets frequently. If I was a Steelers fan I'd be wearing black and gold glasses, believe me.
Good point. I forgot that the #63 was part of the Jones trade because the Jets only exercized one 2nd round pick last season. It's an ok swap around of assets but it still depends on a 30 year old running back and a 7th round receiver actually being worth anything in 2 seasons to balance out much more than even in my opinion, and it's still a negative deal if Clemens ultimately does not pan out. Almost all of the actual value in the deal is still related to the initial trade of the 35 and 211 for the 53 nee 49 and the 37 in 2007. If the Jets had just taken David Harris on the 37 and grabbed one of the offensive linemen on the 59 we'd probably be looking at a viable selection of Darren McFadden on the 6, instead of the situation we're in. You can outsmart yourself really easily by trading around too much.
I live around all steeler fans. If you were one, you'd complain how they lose all of thier players and never do anything in free agency. Yet completely ignore the fact that your team is competitive every year. I just want to walk around and bonk all of them on the head every offseason. They drive me nuts. :grin:
I watch a fair number of games at a bar in Fairfield that is a diehard Steelers joint. Even in the off years I've never seen a happier more positive group of fans. This was through the Kordell Stewart oopsies and the Tommy Maddox chuck it and pray regime and the guy who kept getting hurt and couldn't stay on the field even after he'd won the job. Through all of that the Steelers fans in that bar were never bitching about who the QB was or railing on Cowher because he couldn't win the big one or complaining about anything at all that I could see. That has to be an effect promoted by decades of success. The little things don't get you down and even the big picture failings can be glossed over from season to season because your team never goes in the tank as a result. Now juxtapose that with being a Jets fan for 30 years and you don't even have the same ballpark in terms of the experience of being a fan. I really think being a Jets fan (and all fandoms associated with historically bad teams) could legitimately be classified as a minor depressive illness at this point. BTW, as an addendum to the above: there are two types of sports bars that I never feel threatened in in any way shape or form, Steelers bars and Packers bars. Both of those teams have happy contented followings that don't mind if a Jets fan comes in, even in games against their team, wearing a #12 jersey and rooting for their team to win. Go into a Browns bar like that and odds are excellent there will be blood on the floor at some point. And yes, I've been in all 3 situations and I'm really glad it wasn't my blood on the floor.
