I'd like these players six days from now. 1) 17 - Knowshon Moreno, RB - Jets fan, tough running back, good complement to Leon. Sanchez is gone. 2) 53 - Brian Robiskie, WR - I'm praying he's here, but he's most likely gone due to the fact that he can produce right away. He may be another Cotchery, but if Clowney is progressing well this kid will be a welcome addition. 3) 76 - Dorrell Scott, DL - This kid seems special. He takes pride in leadership roles and mentors younger players. In the NFL, you need guys with that kind of character... hates, absolutely hates leaving jobs unfinished, especially on the football field... I really like this kid for the DL depth. Starter when Ellis and Coleman are gone. 4) 115 - Trevor Canfield, OG - A Mauler. At Cincinatti he beat the shit out of everyone. Coaches love him, good size at 6'5 307. Fine prospect to groom behind Faneca. 6) 193 - Bear Pascoe, TE- the Jets have Keller who is a offensive threat. Pascoe can block and catch the occasional pass. The Giants did this with Shockey and Boss, although Shockey was/is a better blocker than Keller. 7) 228 - Kevin Huber, P - The Jets need a Punter. He's slotted for the early 6th, but let's say he drops to the mid 7th and the Jets pick him up. I have no faith in Hodges. Field position is important.
Overall, hell of a draft for the Jets -- +1 because Bear Pascoe dominates. I know a lot of guys are talking about Robert Quinn and Anthony Hill as dominant blocking tight ends, but I've been saying this all season long: Bear Pascoe is the best blocking tight end in college football. It seemed like Fresno had an extra tackle on the field at times... I'm also hoping for Robiskie in the second, but like you said it's unlikely. If the Jets land Moreno and Robo in the first two rounds, it will be a top five draft. Dorrell Scott was a game changer at Clemson - he would always find a way to knife his way into the backfield and kill the running back. I would be thrilled with this pick - he may be more effective as a DE though. He'd definitely upgrade the run defense... I don't know if Canfield will last that long - he'd be a damn good pick, but he's way too valuable as a run blocker to last until the 4th. I never, ever want to see the Jets draft a punter, but if it's the seventh round...then maybe. I'd rather sign a free agent.
I really enjoy this draft, its got just about everything we need. If Mr. E is right and Canfield is gone in the 4th, I would love to see us snatch Jasper Brinkley, and take an OG in the 7th. I really love Robo, Scott and Pascoe. However the closer we get, the more I want to trade down from 17 if at all possible. heck if we only slide down a few slots, then we could still nab Moreno.... especially since I think the Eagles have their eye's on Wells.
I like Robiskie in the 2nd, but I think he's long gone by then. I think Mohamed Massaquoi might be more realistic there. Some people might think that's a reach, but he showed better speed at his pro day and he was great in the SEC.
That is a huge reach - MoMass shouldn't be drafted until the 4th or 5th round. He benefited greatly from AJ Green drawing constant double teams...
I'm gonna take your word for it, because you seem to know about all of these guys. What's wrong with Massaquoi that makes him get drafted that late? I've been reading some places were guys say he could go in the second.
i'm a big Brinkley fan, and he was my other 4th round pick. What made me decide against it is all of the money tied into the position. If Canfield is gone, Brinkley would be my guy. I like picking up guys with potential that matches earlier rounds but is held back by injuries - like chansi stuckey.
I'd be thrilled. BUT I think Robiskie is a legitimate first round pick, as you may have seen in my mock draft. I think there's a MUCH better chance that Hakeem Nicks is there in the 2nd round. I wouldn't be upset with Knowshon Moreno at all. I like Dorrell Scott too. He's big, strong and versatile and can probably play the nose as well. And I really like the final three picks as well. Nice draft, but no way Robiskie is there.
Good job Mick!!! I'd be very happy with this draft!! We have very similar positions in our mocks. I really hope Moreno is available at #17, if he is, he will be the best offensive player on the board. You said it yourself....Robo will be gone, MR.E brought up Atlanta which is possible, but I think the Bears will take him with their 2nd rd pick......that's why I went with Barden to the Jets. I'm not a Louis Murphy fan.......but the Jets may go in that direction in Rd 2. Can't argue with Scott, similar to Hill, but better competition. Scott's stock is rising and could fall into late rd 2. I almost went Punter.....Morstead or Huber in rd 7....hope we sign one in FA. Solid effort!!!
beautiful, i love how people are loving moreno more and more these days, he makes sense and if he falls to us at 17 i think a lot of us will be happy/surprised
He drops a ton of passes, mainly because he doesn't catch the ball with his hands. MoMass lets the ball get to his body way too often. Also, because of his mediocre speed, he may find it hard to gain separation in the pros.
Yep agreed there, that is my main concern with the dude. Sort of Chad Jackson like though I am hoping he doesnt bust as bad as he did(Jackson). That and it doesnt hurt to have an elite QB throwing it to you and yet you still having a tough time getting the big time catches. That and having a legit WR in Green on the opposite side. But can someone tell me whats with the Moreno lovefest? I think he is a great talent yes but we had the AFC best rusher in Jones last year and a decent little RB in Leon as well. Understanding that Jones is mad about his contract and is "31" why not take a RB later in the draft or until next year because usually there are always solid RBs around in every draft......... I have Moreno as my 3rd fav back in this class behind No.1(Wells) and no.2(McCoy). Not bashing Moreno either since I have both viewed highly but I wouldent go after any of the 3 for the reason I listed above. What scares me about Moreno is his size and the fact that I have questions on him being a go to RB from time to time. He reminds me of Maurice Jones Drew sort of(besides being a bit taller) by that he will have explosive plays and highlight reels BUT may have to benefit off of getting less carries like MJD had done with Taylor in JAX. Wells is the guy if anything that I would like as my RB as he strikes me in comparison to Marshawn Lynch(besides his head). Robiske rules at round 2 but I dont know if he will still be around. and I like both the Huber and Canfield picks too. Dont know a whole lot on Scott but round 3 is iffy for him IMO and havent seen a whole lot of Bear but round 5-6 is good range for him.
Some of you guys know Moreno alot better than I, but I'm not impressed with his center of gravity. The spin moves don't work too well on the next level. NFL players are too disciplined for that. I wish he was a little smoother in his cuts. There is no glide to him.
I don't understand how you can have McCoy ahead of Moreno. As far as Wells, great back that is IMO, is of more finesse player that isn't as versatile as Moreno. Beanie is very fragile and that isn't going to cut it in the NFL. I believe your underestimating Moreno's size and ability to be a #1 back. Moreno makes all the plays.....runs tough and is physical, catches the ball and blocks.....plus he's a great teammate and person. You said it yourself......TJ is over 30...........huge production drop off in your early 30's. Next year's RB crop is good......but why pass on a franchise back if he's available at #17 this year.
I think its possible McCoy is there at our 2nd round pick which would make a situation in which we could possibly trade down, take a Britt or Robiske at the end of the first round, pick up an extra pick and take Shady in the second.
I've loved all the games I have seen of Shady including a thromping where he carried that dimwitted head coach of his to a win at ND just this past year. This is despite having no QB that can carry even the jockstrap of Stafford and no real LEGIT WRs on that Pitt team. Teams KNEW they were going to throw 6-8 men up at Shady and yet he was still able to rip off some great runs and really lead the team far this year. I do agree that Shady should have stayed 1 more year and THEN cash in because he would definitely be the No.1 back in 2010 and would have secured more money. And Beanie has had ONE nasty injury last year but then came back as strong as ever. I love how he runs and while that could be his downfall as far as longevity goes(He runs viciously from the games I have seen at OSU) I think he has the best case of the 3 as far as being a go to RB in the NFL. I still like the Lynch comparisons as Lynch is a top 6-8 RB in the game and the only thing I would say that Wells doesnt do as good as Moreno is being a receiving RB but really that is nitpicking when your looking at RB as I think Moreno's burst of speed suits him better than Beanie when being a receiving threat in the open field. Heck speaking like that maybe he will make a better fit in NYJ considering Scottenheimer always has these F-Ing dumpoffs no matter what the down is. I do prefer Wells and even Mccoy over Moreno in the blocking department, which is absolutely huge for a RB to do. Not that Moreno doesnt try in this department but the size is what will hold him back from being able to be a factor in 3rd and long plays when you need that LB to throw a block on an opposing RB. Really we have our Moreno in Leon......Leon just doesnt have Moreno's upside but he makes that up for being such a great kick returner and having a better understanding in our offense.
Not a big fan of the 2010 WR at the moment outside of Bryant and I like this WR core this year so I just want to address that rather than wait or see what we have in Clowney or Stuckey or whoever. 2011 will be great though because both Floyd(ND) and Green(UGA) should be coming out. But I dont think we should wait that long. hmy:
I always wanted to, but I couldn't spend that much time in front of a television Dedicating Sundays is enough for me
I've seen Beanie's entire career and when he breaks the first wave of tackles and get's into the secondary....he's an explosive runner and is very rarely caught from behind. I just have concerns that he may have trouble getting freedom in the NFL to make the big play. I still believe you need to look at Moreno's entire body of work....he's a workhorse and is a #1 back.......unlike Washington.
