My Post FA Mock

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I think JD did an awesome job filling holes in FA with quality players at great value. I'm disappointed that we weren't able to add a veteran WR, but there really wasn't much from which to choose. I would have loved to add Goodwin, but TB kept him. I also would have loved to add Woods but we had no choice in the matter. Robinson is another WR I would have liked to add, but I'm sure that he was too rich for our blood and probably had no interest in playing here. I didn't want Cooper or Ridley and am thankful that we didn't trade for either.

    My draft would look something like this:

    4 - KT, Edge
    18 - Nakobe Dean, LB*
    35 - Christian Watson, WR or George Pickens, WR
    38 - Lewis Cine, FS or Jaquan Brisker, FS
    49 - Travis Jones, DT
    69 - Dylan Parham, IOL
    98 - Kellen Diesch, OT
    111 - Wan'Dale Robinson, WR or Romeo Doubs, WR
    117 - Tyler Allgeier, RB
    146 - Jelani Woods, TE or Cade Otton, TE
    163 - Pierre Strong, Jr. RB


    *NO wanted to trade up for a QB (Pickett), so I gladly accomodated them. In return, we received picks #49, #98 and their 2nd round pick next year.

    We add three great pieces to the front 7 of our D. We get the dynamic Edge we've been missing since Jon Abraham left, a stud NT prospect in Jones, and a leader and great tackler with great instincts in Dean. To the secondary we add a great scheme fit and prospect to our Safety room in Lewis Cine. He's fast, a great tackler, defender and also has ball skills. With the quality of the CBs we drafted last season and the addition of Reed, I don't think we need to add another CB to the CB room. IMO the only reason to add a CB in the draft this year would be if the Jets are in love with Sauce Gardner, or with the plan to use Berrios in the slot more, add a CB like Marcus Jones, who is a ballhawk, but is the best return man in the draft.

    In adding Watson or Pickens to the WR corps, we add a tall fast WR who will present a great target for Zach and is a HR threat from anywhere on the field. I still really like Burks, but unless I took him at #18 following the trade down, knew he'd be gone before pick #35. I believe we do need a big-bodied WR as this is probably Davis' last season with us unless he stays healthy and blows the lid off this year. If he fell to #35, I'm taking him instead of Watson/Pickens.

    In adding Parham and Diesch, I added our future starting center, and our swing OT and greatly upgraded our OL depth.

    Adding Robinson would give us a Deebo Samuel-type versatile WR and gadget play specialist.

    Supposedly, the Jets plan to run the ball a lot more this year. With that in mind, imo our RB corps needs overhauling. I love MC, but he couldn't stay healthy last year and we need another RB to pair with him. We also need a power back or FB to help with blocking in pass protection and the rushing attack, as well as adding another element to our offense to give opposing Ds something else to think about. Coleman can still play, but he can't stay healthy, so imo should not be the #2, but the #3 or maybe even the #4. Johnson is not a reliable receiver (he led the team in drops last season) or blocker. He needs to be replaced. Perine is not a scheme fit, and Walter is imo is a PS level player. Accordingly, I added two RBs towards the end of the draft for us. Tyler Allgeier, who is a power back, yet has some wiggle, and gets a large number of yards after contact. He is also a capable receiver, and he played with Zach at BYU in 2020. Pierre Strong runs a 4.37 40 and is just too talented to pass up at that point of the draft. He gives us another HR threat from the RB positition. He need some refinement, so he would probably be our #4 this year and then replace Coleman or push him to #4 next year.

    Finally, the TE class in this draft is too good and too strong to not add one, and Uzomah probably won't be here over 2 years, and if Woods develops, he would pair nicely with Conklin going forward. If Woods isn't there, Cade Otton is another complete TE who is a good route runner, smooth, good receiver and good blocker.
     
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  2. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Your safeties will be off the board before your receivers.

    I don't know if either safety would be there at 35 but passing on them would be a mistake.
     
  3. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    dean at 18 is a garbage pick the man is tiny
     
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  4. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I disagree, obviously. He's on the small side, but strong, a solid tackler, has great instincts and football IQ, and is good in coverage. He's exactly the type of player that JD and Saleh like.
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I totally disagree. Perhaps one or both will be gone at #35, but even if so, I'm hearing that as many as 6 WRs could go in the 1st round. GB needs WRs desperately as does Atlanta, and Atlanta picks before us in the 2nd round. I can easily see both Watson and Pickens gone by #35 and WR is by far a bigger need for us than S. At #35 Hill will probably be gone, but Cine and Brisker should still be there. I don't think both will be picked at #36 and #37. They could be, but that's a gamble I'd be willing to take.

    The Giants pick after us at #36 and they only have Julian Love and Xavier McKinney at S, so they could easily take a S. The Texans have 6 safeties on their roster. I suppose that they could still take one, but I doubt it. Even if so, there are other safeties we could draft, and we don't have to add another S this year. WR is much more important. At WR we have Moore, Davis, Berrios, Mims, and Jeff Smith. Neither Moore nor Davis no Berrios could stay healthy last season, Mims may be on the way out the door, and Jeff Smith sucks.
     
  6. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I like your draft okay, especially since you mention Pickins who I think will be a good value play maker, but I'm not big on mocks with trades. Last season trades were obvious so including them in locks made more sense. This season they are wild guesses so I'd just like to see who people want at our original position.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Fair point about the trades.

    If I was unable to trade down from #10, it would depend on how I had players rated. If I had Devin Lloyd or Nakobe Dean rated that high, I'd be tempted to take one of them, but wouldn't. The only DT/NT that would be rated anywhere near that high is Davis, but there's way I'd use the #10 pick on a part time player, no matter how talented he is. I don't like London and am not really a fan of Garrett Wilson, either, but it would come down to Wilson, Sauce Gardner, and Hamilton if he was still there. I don't think we need to draft a CB at all, much less at the top of the draft. Both Hall and Reed are too good to sit on the bench. If Hamilton was still there, I'd hold my nose and take him, since I think we need a FS. If not, I'd probably take Wilson, but wouldn't be happy about it. He's very talented, but I just don't like short/small WRs.

    Not having the additional 2nd and 3rd round picks, would mean changes. We have to get a DT, so I'd probably take Travis Jones at #38, which is a little bit of a reach according to some rankings, not probably not according to others. That would probably mean that we wouldn't wind up getting a S early, if at all, because I'd still take one of Watson or Pickens with the other 2nd round pick, as I think we need two WRs, and I'm not gonna take two sub 6' WRs in Wilson and Robinson. I then wouldn't be able to take both Parham and Diesch. Taking Parham would mean not getting Muma or Brandon Smith, but Troy Andersen might still be there in the 4th. That's what I'd do. I'd punt on Diesch and take Parham at #69. If Andersen is still there at #111, I'd take him as I've already taken 2 WRs. I'd still take Allgeier, Otton/Woods and Strong.
     
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  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    in my opinion he'd get pushed around like a rag doll in the second level. Plus JD isnt big on LBs and thinks we're good there. if he ends up picking 18 hes gonna take an inside fatty way before he'd consider Dean. Also after signing two Safeties this off season I doubt he uses a premium pick on another one.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You could be right about his getting pushed around. As far as JD thinking we're good at LB, I think that's probably a smokescreen. It's very rare that GMs or HCs say anything honest about their team or their intentions in FA or the draft.

    In terms of inside fatties, I think there are only 3 in the draft: Devonte Wyatt of UGA, Jordan Davis of UGA, and Travis Jones of CT. Only Davis is ranked in the area between 10 & 18 as far as I can tell. I can't see JD taking a part-time player that high, but I could be wrong, since they rotate their DL anyway. I agree that he'd probably rather take the DT before the LB, but if they don't like Davis, and plan to take a LB early, then the LB will come first. They could do something similar to what I did, take Jones in the 2nd and then a LB in the 3rd or 4th.

    Regarding S, you could be right, but they only really signed one outside S, Whitehead. They re-signed Joyner, but it's just a one-year deal. At Joyner's age, I doubt that he'll get another year after this one. He's coming off an injury, and it's not like we have topnotch depth behind him. I can easily see drafting a S for competition with Joyner this year, and an eye towards his being the starter next year. Not every draft class has topnotch safeties like this one. They could wait until next year to try to take a S in the draft or sign one in FA. Cine is as near perfect a scheme fit as they come, and not many things are close to "perfect." I'll really be surprised and somewhat disappointed if they don't take a S in the 2nd round.

    The draft above is what I would do if I were GM, not what I think JD will do.

    Thanks for your responses.
     
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  10. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Not bad but unrealistic. I just can’t see us trading back and taking Dean.
     
  11. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    Too much defense. You need to take oline and a reciever in your first four. Oline is better after free agency but far from complete. We need more talent there badly.
     
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  12. KingRoach

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    Which of our OL starters needs badly to be replaced?
     
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    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    You can take OL after the first 2 rounds you know.
     
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    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    This. I don’t get it. The OL is done, locked and loaded. Get a guy 3rd or later. If you draft a guy top 2 rounds I guess you’re trading Fant or Becton.
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    When I saw your draft I thought for sure it would look like this:

    4 - Best weapon available for ZW
    18 - Best weapon available for ZW
    35 - Best weapon available for ZW
    38 - Best weapon available for ZW ;)
     
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  16. KingRoach

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    The only thing I could see early is trading into the late 1st/ getting lucky in the 2nd and grabbing Zion. I think McG is in JDs doghouse after the game where Zach was getting beat up with some cheap shots. Zion proved he could play C and could double as G backup and slide into RG when/if LT leaves in 3 or 4 years.

    Position Upgrade
    Position Versatility
    Position Pipeline
     
  17. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know half of the guys you mentioned unless I look them up to realized who they played for, but regardless I can def see the Jets trading 10 and go heavy on defense with first several picks. I think you picks at least checked off the boxes
     
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  18. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your response.

    Your saying I took too much defense makes me smile, because most people think I'm not taking enough defense, and am still focusing too much on the offense.

    We do not need to take OL in the first four. We already have two first round picks on the OL. We don''t need 4 or 5 or even 3 to have a topnotch OL. On the OL, it's more important how well they play as a unit, rather than how talented each is individually. Barring Becton just not being a scheme fit and struggling, our OL is set. All we need is depth. I can see taking an OT in the 3rd or 4th round if there's a good prospect for depth and insurance, but you don't use a top 10 pick on insurance. The only reason for us to take an OL that high is if the Jets determine to just draft BPA, and the BPA at either #4 or #10 is an OL.

    As far as WR, normally, I would. I just don't like London at all and am not all that high on Wilson. I'd truly rather have Christian Watson or George Pickens or even Jahan Dotson than Wilson. I wish it were different. I wish Burks was more athletic. If so, I'd definitely take him at #10, if not #4, but he isn't.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
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  19. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    McGovern, fant and Tomlinson in 1-3 years. Becton maybe needing replacement immediately.
     
  20. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    I know but i want stud, monsters protecting zach, like mangold and brick
     

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