Moving Forward

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  1. Pride

    Pride New Member

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    After losing out for sure McFadden, and both Long's. Here are the names we have to start finding out about:

    1) OLB Vernon Gholston is an absolute pas rushing beast. We get our own Shawn Merriman to pair next to Dave Harris. He would give us a really good core on D including Harris, Revis and Rhodes

    2) Matt Ryan I really dont want him because im not sold he is a franchise signal caller but we have to look at him with as bad as Clemens has looked.

    Others include: ILB James Lauranitis, Safety Kenny Phillips, WR Malcom Kelly, CB Mike Jenkins
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Trade down for Frank Okam. Pick up a 2nd and 6th in return. If McFadden is there we can probably trade down for a 1st this year and next year.
     
  3. Gubernaculum

    Gubernaculum New Member

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    You take the best player available when you're as bad as the Jets

    I think Matty Ryan will be the best player available at that spot, but it wouldn't be strategic for them to spend a 1st day pick on a QB twice in three years. If not QB, I'd go after Jake Long.
     
  4. Penning10toColes

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    I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse, but just to clarify, would he work in a 3-4?
     
  5. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    I didn't see Okam much this year, but in his junior year he reminded me of Seymour. I'd love for the Jets to draft him.
     
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He's one of the best 3-4 NT prospects in college right now.

    Will he make it? Hard to say, it's a red meat position where you either eat people or get eaten. That's why NT's are such a rare breed.
     
  7. JoeWillie130

    JoeWillie130 Well-Known Member

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    I like Gholston a lot and he probably has the size to be and skills to be a good pass rushing OLB in the 3-4. I would be happy with that pick.
     
  8. Pride

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    I think it should be Gholston/Jake Long or trade down. After the 2 Long's, McFadden, and Gholston I see the premier talent gone at the top of the draft. Also I wont no part of a QB that high
     
  9. JoeWillie130

    JoeWillie130 Well-Known Member

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    I am not very high on Clemens but I don't like Ryan so I would much rather go defense with the pick.
     
  10. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with the first part, but I strongly disagree about Ryan.
     
  11. GreenHornet

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    I think we have to stay away from using the first pick on a QB. It just doesn't fit a need unless we think that Clemens will never work. I don't think the Jets are ready to throw in the towel on Clemens just yet. This is going to beat the dead horse but if we improve our offensive line the running game will get a lot better Jones and Leon can get it done if they have an offensive line that can open holes.

    Here are some guys we should have on radar:

    Frank Okam - this guy could possibly be a NT, but may have to beef up 15lbs.

    ILB James Lauranitis - with Hobson going into FA; this pick could make alot of sense.

    WR Early Doucet - Ht: 6-1 Wt: 205 40 time: 4.4 Even though his name may be mocked among New Yorkers as a feminine clensing device, the guy is fast and has decent height. With Clemens throwing a near perfect strike to Cotchery today that was 60 yards in the air, a fast, big WR could be a good investment.

    WR Malcom Kelly Olklahoma Ht/Wt: 6-4, 217 40 Time: 4.5 - I think he is still a junior; he may or may not declair eligibilty

    Write this name down - Limas Sweed WR 6'5" 219 lbs from Texas - he is down with a broken right wrist and left elbow, but look at the film of this guy; it is impressive. He reminds me a little of Keyshawn. He has 4.5 speed; not too bad. If anything the injuries may force him to fall because I do not know to what degree he will be able to participate in the combines. He would be a great grab as a second rounder and a steal as a third rounder.

    Sam Baker OT 6'5 - 305 lbs USC - this guy could move up in the combines and be a solid 6 pick.

    Ryan Clady OT Height:, 6-6, Weight: 317 - still a junior, but this guy is going to get bigger.

    Michael Oher; 6' 6" 325 lbs. Offensive Tackle Ole Miss. If this guy declares he would be worth looking at.

    Here is a name we really ought to look at: Owen Schmidt West Virginia Class: Sr. Hometown: Fairfax, Va. Height: 6-3 Weight: 260 - the guy is a beast of a fullback; he probably won't go in the first round, but he could go as a mid 2nd rounder. We desperately need a power fullback. He has great ball and running skills and blocking skills. How many times were we 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 2 and really needed those yards to sustain a drive. Or, down at the 2 with goal to go. This guy is the answer. He has 4.7 speed which is very good for a guy his size. Having a guy like this as a lead blocker makes Jones and Leon get better.
     
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  12. Pride

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    ^^Nice Job
     
  13. Br4d

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    Ideally the Jets fix the two lines in this draft.

    If that means trading down a bit for multiple picks then that's what they should do. I think it's pretty obvious by now that if D'Brick is going to make it he needs a good guard on his right shoulder.
     
  14. GreenHornet

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    I really think the Jets need to take a hard look at Faneca in the FA market. Even though he is 30, it is actually prime for a lineman. We could get as much as 5 or 6 years out of the guy. Plus, he brings much needed leadership to the offensive line and having Super Bowl experience doesn't hurt either. We clearly have the cap to do this.
     
  15. DevTeam

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    A lot of times you can't just trade down. I hate how people are constantly saying, "well, we'll just trade down if this situation occurs" like there are always willing participants to give up trade value to you to move up a couple spots.In 2005 when the niners took alex smith, I'm sure they wanted to "trade down" big time, but there weren't any takers.
     
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    Matt Ryan looks like Chad Pennington coming out of college to me. Do we really need to go through that AGAIN?
     
  17. NYJetsFan26

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    As A Michigan State fan who watched Matt Ryan 1st hand in the bowl game, he is not going to be a very good NFL QB, the Jets would be idiots 2 waste a pick on him, MSU's QB sucks big time and he was only a tad bit worse then Ryan, please jets, don't waste a pick on Ryan....
     
  18. Br4d

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    It's a lot easier to trade down from the 6-10 at this point than from the 1-5. The cost is much less and the exposure for the acquiring team is much less. The 6, 7 and 8 picks are prime tradeable comodities.
     
  19. PennyandtheJets

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    I am nervous about this pick...it is officially the 6th pick right?

    People are saying that the Raiders might be the team to grab Gholston.

    I would be very happy with Gholston, I think that he would be a perfect fit in our 3-4 defense. He would give us that pass rusher that we so desperately need.

    Having said all that, if Gholston isn't available at our pick, I am not sure who the Jets will grab at their pick. Jake Long, Chris Long and McFadden will probably be gone by the time we are on the clock.

    The Jets ain't taking a QB with this pick so those of you who are worried about that shouldn't be.
     
  20. Gubernaculum

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    The bottom line is that the Jets need to think how far the dropoff between Jake Long and every other tackle is.

    Bowl season will tell a lot- I really want to see how Kirk Barton of tOSU measures up as well as seeing how Long handles Florida's pass rush. I'm not a big fan of Sam Baker because he would be another small-ish tackle on an already small line. We need some beef. I'd love Otah, who is massive, but he's far too raw to be a sensible pick at #6.

    I think Run DMC and Chris Long will be off the board by #6. I'm all for drafting Long at #6, flipping either he or Brick to RT and sign one of the FA guards.

    I'm a big fan of Quentin Groves who I think will be a fine player in this league and could be had in the 2nd round as an alternative to Gholston. However, I also think the Jets will make a move for Suggs to fill the giant void at OLB that we have.

    There's still a part of me that shudders at the thought of spending 3 first rounders in 3 years on the offensive line though.
     

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