If you were GM of the Jets for a day, is there a player in the league that you would hand over a substantial portion of the 2014 draft for? How much would you give up to move to the #1 overall pick? What would you want to get back for moving to either one of the last 3 picks of round 1 of to skip the 1st altogether and not pick until the top 10 of round 2?
None to move up to. We are not one player away from being a playoff contender. Now, if it comes our pick and there are still multiple big time players on the board, I would think about trading back and getting a second 2nd rounder. That would be sweet. I think we are staying put though. We need wide receivers, corner, and safety. If we move back, the teams ahead of us will likely pick the top corners and receivers.
The only player I'd trade up for would be Teddy Bridgewater, but I wouldn't give up much, so probably wouldn't be able to trade up. While the QB is THE most important position, the Jets have too many needs and holes at this point. Geno might still develop and be good enough if the team is strong around him. That said, if Teddy fell to #13 and I could get the trade up done (I haven't looked at the trade chart) with something like our 3rd and 6th round picks (or less), I'd do it. That probably isn't enough, however. I don't know if I'd give up our 2nd to move up for him, but probably would if I had a lot of doubts about Geno and wasn't that high on any of the QB prospects likely to be in the 2015 or 2016 drafts. To move to the end of the 1st round, depending upon how many place down I moved, I'd want at least a 3rd round pick, and more likely a 2nd. I'd have to look at the trade value chart and then think about who might be left at that point in the draft that I liked. If I thought that the changes were good that I'd miss out on Cooks, Lee, Beckham and Ford by trading down, I doubt I'd do it. The other team would really have to blow me away with a generous offer.
I agree with both of these posts. Trading up seems to always be a sucker's bet unless you are sure that you are that one player away from becoming a major contender. I'm not that sold on anybody in the top half of the draft, nor do I think the rest of the Jets roster doesn't have some significant holes to fill. I think trading back into the latter part of round 1 could be a beneficial move if you can also pick up a 2nd round pick and maybe another mid-rounder. This draft seems pretty deep at WR and CB, so there should be a very good player available at the end of round 1. The one thing I disagree on is moving up to take Bridgewater. I'd look at a QB in the 3rd round maybe, and if neither he nor Geno pans out as a viable starting QB, look to 2015 or 2016 for a franchise guy.
1st + 2nd is always a good deal for me if that involves moving down by about 5-6 picks. Anything more, they will have to throw in 3rd as well. And moving up? That won't happen even when hell freezes over. As for the franchise QB: my take has changed substantially over the years. 1st round QBs that play from day 1 and succeed are really really rare. [John Elway, Peyton Manning, etc] Especially in today's college football environment, it would be more than absurd to assume that the college QBs receive the corrective training and coaching while in school. I am talking about minimum 2 years of corrective works as well as adapting to NFL. For that reason, I am inclined to believe that, good QBs can be taken at mid round. If the kid has the correct mental set up and fortitude, with NFL quality coaching and training, he can be a valuable asset - just it takes time.
Actually, according to the standard trade value chart, to trade down from the #18 pick to the #28 pick, the difference is onl7 240 points (900 to 660), which equates to the 6th pick of the 3rd round. I wouldn't do it for that. The deal would have to be sweetened considerably, because the holder of the #28 pick in the first round isn't gonna hold the 6th pick of the 3rd round either (in most cases), it would have to be for that team's pick in the 2nd round
Predicting trades is more difficult than winning the Lotto. I would say Idzik is more conservative that Tanny, so trades will be less likely.
The JETS have 12 picks in the draft and 4 of those picks can't be traded because they are compensatory, so I would say it will be likely that there will be trades on day 2 and day 3 of the draft and the JETS will end up picking 7 or 8 players total when it's said and done.
Maybe if Tanny was GM, not Idzik. Not going to happen, we will most likely make all of our picks. Maybe trade up one time at best and have have 11 picks or 10 the least amount. The Jets aren't a player or two away from being a serious contender to trade away a bunch of picks. Idzik will build this team thru the draft to create competition and depth.
I'm going to hate it big time if that happens. This team lacks talent and depth - so what sense is there in trading the picks away?
Exactly. It makes no sense whatsoever. That's the stupid, loser Tanny modus operandi, NOT Idzik thank God. Some Jets fans deserve to have Tanny as the GM for life and Richie Kotite the HC for life.
Staying in place is my guess. If the Jets were ever going to move up in a big way in the Idzik Era they'd have done it last year when Geno slipped out of the 1st round. Think about it. They had 6 picks in front of them in the 2nd round to make a move to get a QB who clearly was in their top 20 overall and they had a QB problem. If they're not going to make a move for a QB they're not going to make a move for anybody else. That's solid draft strategy.
How was he in their top 20? And how was it clearly? He could have been in their top 50 and he figured it was good value at 39 so it was worth the reach. Unless someone has their draft board, making statements like 'he was clearly in their top 20' is just wishful thinking or just made up. _
