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  1. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Statistics for Punters are all kinds of messed up. The only one commonly recorded is Yards/Punt. It's great to have a high number here if your offense is always hit for a 3-and-out. Sadly, that's not always the case. If it was, Quigley would be a shoe in for the HOF (Ray Guy's career avg=42.4).
    The keys to good punting are 1) Consistency, 2) Placement 3) Hang Time, and 4) Distance. Just throwing out Y/P is useless. It's actually worse than useless (like Quigley is worse than Milliner) because it makes bad punters look less bad than they are. A team generally punts somewhere around 70 times a season, so that 6.3 yards/punt spread translates to about 441 yards a season. That's nothing to sneeze at. That's the difference between a 1000 yard receiver and a 659 yard receiver. Teams with bad offenses punt more (and from worse field position), which multiplies the effect (obviously, good offenses punt less, diminishing the effect).

    I wish someone kept stats for hang time and for punts that pin the receiving team inside their own 20. Would make it much easier to evaluate punters without trying to watch every game. Nobody is going to make a "RedZone" for Punting. ....Thank God....
     
  2. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Quigly sucked

    Demario D sucked

    Pace gone

    Cro sucked for most part

    Sandra B meh

    Geno goodbye

    Kellen Davis bad

    Crumby bad

    Breno bye

    Enunwa meh

    Kendrell T meh

    Kerley double meh


    Time for bed ...work tomorrow..snor
     
  3. King Koopa

    King Koopa Well-Known Member

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    Quigley is a bad NFL punter....I don't need stats or anything to back that up as I watch way too much NFL around the league like I'm sure many of you do as well

    He never completely flips field position like I see other teams do to us all the time because he doesn't have a big enough leg. He also chokes at the worst of times (Usually Pats games or times like yesterday when we need a big punt). He is decent at pinning teams I guess but nothing special in that area either

    I just don't understand how a defensive team like the Jets can go year after year after year with a disadvantage in almost every game at the punter position. We are in tons of games where field position is everything and we are continually behind the 8 ball

    It needs to be addressed, period
     
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  4. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I wanted to go back and look at that year as well but I nearly choked on all the vomit that came up when I looked at 2014 and 2013. I figured if I looked back at Tanny's last few drafts it would have sealed the deal.
     
  5. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    In fact, Quigley, tied for fifteenth in the league in number of punts at 75 put 27 of them inside the twenty. You can see a whole page of stats at nfl.com:

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...experience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=true&Submit=Go

    Hang time is not there but we hear it on the broadcasts, so someone's keeping track.
     
  6. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    mcduck's 'contribution' on special teams yesterday was a 10 yard holding penalty which cost a lot of field position. he almost never made a tackle on a punt and I frankly don't recall one play he made all year. devin smith at least had a receiving td.
     
  7. Jetaho

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    Brent Qvale. Fuck that guy.
     
  8. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    punt yardage is a silly stat. if you are punting from the 45 yard line you dont have the opportunity nor do you want to have a super long punt. simply taking into account the number of times inside the 20 doesnt really work to make that stat make sense either.

    the bottom line is that the guy had no ability to flip field position when he had the opportunity. not just this one game or that one punt. its something that i can recall seeing happen many many times through the year. sure he might come back and kick a 48 yarder the next time but the damage may have already been done by his 38 yard punt the last go around.
     
  9. Christian

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    Yeah that receiving touchdown was against a shit team we were going to beat regardless.
     
  10. Andy_M

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    Three way tie......Breno Giacomini, Brian Winters, Ryan Quigley. Yes, Breno and Winters are as useless as Quigley.

    Honorable mention: Dee "glass man" Milliner, Demario "on-n-off" Davis, Kellen "clueless" Davis
     
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  11. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    He said you would look good in his souffle
     
  12. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Devin Smith sucks more than a nuclear powered hoover-boover vacuum cleaner.
     
  13. DarrelleRevis.Human?

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    Breno, due to his salary vs production

    I would also like to nominate anyone that had a hand in special teams, from the staff to the lowest man on the depth chart.
     
  14. LIJetsFan

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    IMHO Breno is adequate. He had a bad game Sunday but his ankle was taped and he was questionable to start. There are definitely a lot worse than him. Bohannon comes to mind when you consider that half the NFL teams don't bother with a FB, you'd think a better FB must be available and out there somewhere.
     
  15. Zach

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    Jets were Superbowl bound with Mighty Geno. WTF are ya talking about? :D
     
  16. deerow84

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    Special teams in general but mostly Quigley. I hope we draft a punter with a late pick, it's worth it for a team with as terrible punting as we have.
     
  17. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Can we trade Devin Smith for a kicking tee and practice net?
     
  18. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Did you say the same thing about Pryor last season?
     
  19. Quinnenthebeast

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    Last weekend was perfect example of why people hate Ridley. He got plenty of opportunities and got stuffed or had a very most gain on almost every play. Then an injured Ivory steps in, same line, against the same defense, and springs one for like 50 yards. This year he's been one of those players that whenever he's out there, you know the play is going to fail automatically if they give it to him. If so little is invested in him, why didn't they just look in the free agency during the year? I know there is never going to be much talent available in those situations, but guys have been picked up in middle of this year and have played decently. When you get down to your 3rd runningback, free agent pickups are probably not much different in terms of talent anyways.
     
  20. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    No, that was Walter Powell.
     

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