I know this doesnt matter now but i felt for a rebuilding team like the jets we shouldve picked up more experienced coordinators. I just feel uncomfortable with such inexperienced coaches combined with young players. Its better to have coaches that have been around a while so they can lead the young players. Its not a good situation when you have coaches and rookies growing at the same rate experience wise because it eliminates any kind of leadership role.
The good thing I see about a group of guys like this is that they are hungry and motivated to do well. Also, it isn't like they just came in the league either. Mangini, Sutton, and Schott have all been around veteran coaching staffs for a good while. They are going to bring some good things to the table with the experience they have.
I do agree that so many young players should be coached by a more experienced staff, however... I have no problem seeing if the guys we brought in work out... the optimist in me says, "give 'em a chance."
Yeah. After one preseason game I can definitely see how inexperienced and overmatched our coaching staff was matching up the Jets third stringers against the Bucs third stringers in that 2nd half. Gruden just schooled Mangini in that one. Wait a minute. Wasn't Gruden the youngest head coach in the NFL at one point??? Didn't he win a SB??? How many retread coaches have never ever won anything???? And oh by the way - Sutton is no puppy. Typical August Jet fan responses once again are driving me crazy.
i think they will be fine. herm hadn't even been a defensive coordinator, not that mangini has that much experience in that role. but mangini has been brought up in a good farm system, unlike edwards. the difference here of course is parcells/groh left a good playoff team for edwards that didn't need THAT much work. edwards has left us with a team in shambles, but since he's been gone, mangini and tanny have done a great job to add competition at every position, and my feeling is that competition breeds excellence. we do need a another dt i think though. anyways there will be some growing pains that mangini will have to go through, and we as fans need to give him some time to learn from the situations he will come across. edwards in the years he was here made very few adjustments to his playcalling and gameplans, year after year having the same issues with time management an so on. all i ask of mangini is to plan ahead and be prepared, which i think he will be.
Mike Westhoff - 24 years Jimmy Raye - 30 years Tony Wise - 17 years Bob Sutton - 7 years Rick Lyle - 9 years
We indeed do have a young CS at the top. However, Mangini,Sutton and Schottenheimer have all been around this league for quite some time, and are not new to the process by any means. What they will add is some fresh new ideas in terms of scheme, player development and coaching. They are also backed by some positional coaches w/ a good number of years under their belt.
Its a great opportunity for these guys to build their own legacy. You gotta start somewhere. We've had coaches with far more experience, but it hasn't gotten us that SB yet. Can't hurt going the other route.
Everyone needs a shot some time man. I just hope Schottenheimer remembers he is not on the west coast any more and that it's OK to have 2 WRs run streak and try a home run play every now and again. As for Sutton, I know very little about him. I like Henderson alot and wish he stuck around but hopefully Sutton has a good head on his shoulders too.
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches/show/479?return_to_controller=coaches&return_to_action=index Take a look for yourself, right there for ya on the official Jets webpage. Just relaying what I read.
Actually as I posted before, on the official Jets website, Lyle is listed as 9 years NFL coaching experience. And officially Lyle is listed as an Assistant Strength and Conditioning coach, not an assitant D-Line coach. But thanks for reminding me about Denny Marcin, who is listed as 10 years experience. My point being, not all of the coaching staff is made up of inexperienced coaches in their first year in the league. There are some vets in there that have more than earned their due.
That's craziness. He was just playing a couple years ago. Someone check his resume and see if he also said that he's fluent in Spanish and listed spelunking as a hobby.
They tried but failed. The first choice for defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan of the Raiders. Al Davis gave him a contract extension and he looks like the next Raider HC after Art Shell. They wanted Heimerdinger and interviewed other candidates with HC and OC experience like Chris Palmer. Mangini's first choice was Davidson who, like Ryan, he had worked with in NE. Davidson elected to stay with the Browns. To sum up, no experienced coach, even those with ties to Mangini was willing to go to the Jets.
The website is wrong, he was still an active player with the Pats in 2003. This is his first coaching gig that I'm aware of.... http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3852
Many times you hear about older coaches having a tough time connecting with the younger players. The older coaches (gibbs, Schott, parcells, etc) try to go "old school" on younger players who sometimes revolt or at least tune them out. Not sure if a "younger coach" will do any better, just a comment on older coaches and some the trouble they bring (see Capers and Shockey, Gibbs and Ramsey, etc).
