Since we are getting a little closer to draft day and my 1st one was more out of fun then it was realistic, decided to do 2.0 version. I won't be doing any trades in this one as those are even harder to predict then the draft itself. Also i'm going to assume that picks 1 and 2 are murray and bosa Round 1 Pick 3: Allen, Josh OLB/EDGE assuming murray and bosa went 1 and 2 so allen is pretty much a no brainier considering his talent level and our need of an edge rusher. if SF takes allen instead we take bosa, if SF takes williams, we get a hard decision to make with allen or bosa but i think allen fits our scheme a little better and also isn't coming off a major injury either so as of now i'm leaning towards allen. If bosa and allen go 1 and 2, we could probably trade down easily for a team wanting murray and wind up taking an edge rusher like sweat, ferrell, or burns depending how far we trade down. lots of talented edge rushers in this draft. I expect 6 to go in the 1st round and 5 of them likely in the top half of the 1st round Round 3 Pick 4: McCoy, Erik C natural center who can also play guard (but would play center for us) 3 year starter in college. grades out as a potential starter in the NFL and can compete with harrison off the bat to start in 2019 Round 3 Pick 29: Samuel, Deebo WR Gives us a WR4 and should be able to contribute on offense off the bat as a slot WR in 3 and 4 WR sets as well as a good special teamer with KR/PR ability since we let roberts walk. good YAC guy who is dangerous with the ball in his hands and tough over the middle Round 4 Pick 3: Wilson, Caleb TE last year it seems mac hit the lottery with a 4th round TE in herndon, maybe he can do it again? after herndon our TEs are not very good. legget is close to being a complete bust and nobody else really stands out as of now. wilson could be the TE2 in his rookie season. he's a project and not much of a blocker but could develop into a solid receiving TE2 Round 6 Pick 23: Gaines, Greg DT our DTs are pretty thin right now. gaines is a high motor guy with good enough size to play NT. probably not a starter at the NFL level but could be good for spelling mclendon and depth and it's the 6th round at this point plus mac loves to draft D-line Round 7 Pick 3: Pollard, Tony WR/RB listed at WR/RB pollard is a perfect fit for the jets. he's a gadget player, and gase will find ways to use him, with good size and speed who can play RB and WR. he's also one of the top returners in college football over the past 3 years. funny enough in his draft bio on nfl.com his NFL comparison is andre roberts. Overall I think this draft is pretty realistic and nails everything we need. we get a stud pass rusher at 3, in the 3rd round we land a possible starting C, and a WR who can add depth and does returns. the rest of the draft gives us depth at TE, DT, and a good gadget player who also returns kicks so we get a nice boost to special teams overall with samuals and pollard. Only thing not addressed really is OT and CB which has to wait until next year but we should be ok enough with beechum and shell and the improvements on the interior with osemele at guard and possibly mccoy at C and for CB the jets seem ok riding roberts as the CB2 this season and hopefully some of the younger CBs can step up (nickerson, robinson, clark, jones)
I'll only comment on the first 3 picks, as I don't do that much research into the draft. I fear some team is going to reach on a center in round 1, which will cause a run on centers in the 2nd round, which may mean one doesn't fall to the third. I'd really like McCoy to fall, but I'm not sure he will. I also don't get why most have Deebo falling. He seems to be pretty well thought of, maybe I'm out of the loop, but I could see him being a 2nd rounder. Both would be great picks if they were there though.
yeah teams reaching is always possible. the good news is there are a lot of interior lineman with a 3rd round grade. I'm sure we will be able to land 1 in the 3rd round. it's a good year to spend a 3rd round pick on interior lineman which is pretty nice for us and a really good year to use a 1st on an edge rusher. we got pretty lucky in both cases there. I agree on deebo as well. it could be because he's a smaller guy who isn't a burner, teams don't care much about returners in general as special teams is being faded out with rule changes, and still needs work at WR. I think it's because he's not seen as a starting quality WR as he is more of a WR3 slot guy at best but i think he fits that role nicely. kind of reminds me of kerly actually (5th round). NFL.com says his comparison is pharaoh cooper who was a 4th rounder for the rams last year. He also has an injury history for 2016 and 2017 and plays tough which contributed to that as well with his small size (like a mini enunwa) on the flip side NFL big board has him at 39 (2nd rounder) walter football has him as a late 1st early 2nd rounder so really he is one of those players that could go in the 1st or fall to the 4th or anything in between. If i had to guess id say he's a 2nd-3rd rounder when it's all said and done
With the exception of Wilson and Gaines, I love this draft, but unfortunately, 2 of the other players you picked will never be there in the round you have the Jets taking them, and even McCoy may be gone by our pick in the 3rd round. If so, we'll have to pray that Elgton Jenkins is still there and that Mac will take him. There's no way Deebo falls to the bottom of the 3rd round. He's gonna go early in the 2nd round. He isn't just a slot WR or return man. He can line up anywhere on the field, is very quick and elusive and has great hands, the only thing he doesn't have is height. He would be a great add for the Jets and could push either Enunwa or Anderson. If he's there, I'd definitely take him, just don't think he would be. With Samuels gone, I'd take Mercole Hardman or maybe a CB. Hardman runs a 4.33 40. He is a dangerous return man and a developing WR. He has only been playing WR for a couple of years, but is said to be a quick learner and hard worker. He was a DB in high school. I don't see any way that Tony Pollard lasts until the 7th round, either. Not only is he an excellent RB, but he's also a very good return man. He could go as early as the 4th, but I think the 5th or maybe the 6th are more likely. I'd take him or Darrell Henderson if he's still there in the 4th. I disagree that we need a DT. We also don't need a project TE imo. Foster Moreau of LSU is a much better TE imo. He's already a great blocker, is pretty fast (4.6 40) and is a pretty good receiver. I'd take him in the 4th or maybe the 6th, but he probably won't last until the 6th. If he's there in the 6th, I'd take him. If not, I'd take another TE who excels at blocking.
I suggest you do some more watching of film and reading about Deebo. He will definitely be a starter in this league and he isn't more of WR3/slot guy. I've not read one scouting report that even remotely suggested that Samuel is not seen as a starting quality WR. If Bradbury, McCoy and Jenkins are all gone by our pick in the 3rd round, then we probably should just skip taking a C and Mac should sign Sullivan or a camp cut to start at C. Based on the scouting reports I've read and the film I've seen of McGovern, Gaillard and Pierschbacher, none will be able to start this season, and none of them may wind up being a starter in the NFL.
I can’t see them going TE in the 4th. CB is basically a dire need after OL & EDGE. They have to find some CBS in the draft.
yeah samual is a hard one to call he could be a 2nd rounder some have him as a 1st, some have him as a 3rd. it's a deep WR class though and not a ton of need at WR in the NFL currently either so his stock could easily fall. mccoy as well. he's a 3rd round grade for sure but the need for center and o-line in general in the NFL is high which could lead to him going earlier. there are a lot of good 3rd round talent interior lineman though. i wouldn't even mind drafting 2 of them with our 2 3rd round picks. the value is there and we need o-line help. if we can get a new C and G this draft, then next year we can just focus on upgrading LT and be ok and relatively cheap if we of them are on rookie contracts. i don't disagree that there is a good chance one or both of them are not around in the 3rd round. maybe samual will get caught with a hooker before the draft and fall to us in the 7th lol for pollard i can see him going undrafted or as early as the 6th. i can't see him going sooner then that. he's not in anyone tops 100 (so basically a day 3 guy at best) and nobody even has him in the top 20 RBs either and RB in the NFL is so overcrowded i can't see 20+ teams drafting one in the 1st 5 rounds. he's also not a true RB or true WR. at this point he's a gadget guy and those type of players don't get drafted high. those are where you use late picks like 6/7 rounders and hope you can use them good or develop them into a football player and not just a rough talented athlete. also the NFL as a whole cares less about special teams as well which is where is biggest value is right now. i see him going no earlier then a 6th round and possibly even UDFA for DT, it's interesting. we drafted 2 last year that really are 4-3 DTs so maybe mac sees them as the future NTs here. he didn't trust them enough to not bring back mclendon and they are a little small for a NT but could add weight and develop so i'll agree with you there that we can probably use this pick for something else for TE though moreau isn't much of a receiver he's more of a blocking TE he's basically tomlinson V2.0 id' rather have another threat at reciever at TE like herndon if i can't get a complete one, instead of a blocking one.
i will watch more on him for sure. i've watched some and i don't see him as an outside WR or a true 1 or 2 guy so far. but i'll spend more time looking at mid round WRs as we lead up to the draft for sure. As of now i don't see him as much of a WR. he needs to improve route running, has a small catch radius, and while he has good size and speed he isn't a burner or a big guy. where deebo excels is when he already has the ball and he's willing to make tough catches over the middle but he struggles to get seperation, isn't a big target, and really doens't excel at anything and will need a few years of learning and training to develop into a true WR. but i really see him more as a kerly type of player he reminds me of kerly a lot and while technically he was a starter for us, we all know kerly was a WR3 at best. samual is a similar player to kerly IMO and yeah for C not many immediate starters in the draft but i'm fine developing one and running with harrison in 2019 if need be. center is the least important "blocker" on the line really anyway their job is more important to snap and call out protections and lead the line. we don't need a super center like we had with mawae and mangold who both could block DTs 1 on 1 and also had the athletic ability to be a lead blocker on sweeps.
Not draft a CBs in the draft? I don’t see how Mac would not do it. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised we draft 2, a 2nd 3rd and one at 6th.
Deebo Samuel might be the next Steve Smith, I mean for fucks sakes his name is Deebo, gonna be an absolute beast
CB is iffy for us and here is why. we have trumaine at CB1 so good there. we signed poole for CB3 so good there. behind those 2 we have nickerson (6th round 2018), clark (6th round 2017), jones (6th round 2017), robinson (4th round 2016, we traded a 5th rounder for him in 2017) and 3 UDFA CBs from 2017-2018 the 1 we need to improve on is right now is CB2 where roberts (7th round 2015 NE, singed by jets 2016) so if we cna't land a starting CB now, what's the point and most starters will come from the 1st 2 rounds of the draft and maybe the 3rd. we aren't taking a CB 3rd overall and have no 2nd rounder. we have 2 3rds but other pressing needs to fill. so what's the point of adding another mid to late round CB to the roster when we already have 4 of them that were drafted from 2016 to 2018) plus 3 UDFA CBs from 2017-2018. all that does is create a depth competition for a position where we have 7 people competing for 2-3 spots in camp already. just doens't make sense this year. it makes more sense to ride out roberts at CB2 and hope one of the other 7 guys competing can step up and if not address CB2 next year. I do have high hopes for nickerson but see him more as a CB3 then a starter who can replace poole in 2020 (poole is on a 1 year deal and we won't have much cap next year) and look to the 2020 draft for a CB in the 1st 2 rounds. 2020 looks to be OT and CB as our 2 biggest needs
If Pollard falls to the 6th, I'd be ecstatic, and the Jets should sprint to the podium to take him. I disagree with you about Moreau. Read the article and watch the video below and take a look at some of the team writeups on him. His 24 receptions in 2017 were the second highest on the team, the QB spread the ball around a lot, and Moreau was often used to stay in and block. There's no doubt he needs work on route running, but he has promise. He has good hands and a big catch radius. One NFL analyst projected that Dallas could take him in the 3rd round. He's a much better blocker than Tomlinson, so it's an insult to even compare him with Tomlinson. IMO we need a blocking TE. None of the Jets' present TEs excel at blocking. Tomlinson is the best blocking TE and he leaves a lot to be desired. If Leggett stays healthy and steps up, he is more of a receiving TE. A lot of the Jets' opponents this season could stack 8 men in the box to stop Bell and dare Sam to beat them throwing the ball. Moreau could help in pass protection, in helping Bell get a hole, and as a checkdown receiver. https://247sports.com/college/lsu/A...-rise-testing-numbers-40-yard-dash-129732768/ https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=foster+moreau+nfl&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
One of the best mocks ive seen.Love every pick though id substitute the The DT for a developmental OL or Corner Love Caleb Wilson paired w Herndon. Love Deebo Samuel making all sorts of big plays.Love Josh Allen being the new age Julian Peterson
