Edit. Headline got messed up somehow when I hit enter while typing. But it's got something I have to admit. Tremendous game for him, probably the best player on the field last night. Mo: 6 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL, 3 QB Hits. Rest of D-Line combined (Sheldon, Leonard, Snacks, Bowen, Douzable): 0 Sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB Hit. Watching Mo at 6'4, 320 pounds chase around one of the fastest QBs in the league and catch him from behind was pretty special. Also, that wingspan of his is ridiculous. Hopefully we get something done after the season. He's been nothing but class off the field and arguably a top 3 DE for the past 2-3 years. If anybody deserves to be paid, if any of our DE's have to be locked up it's him.
I said it before, he ain't human! He is quickly becoming my favorite Jet and needs to retire a Jet. Hopefully Revis isn't giving him contract negotiating pointers.
Ballhawks threads are usually some of the only ones with quality analysis and new breaking info, especially the day after a loss when the forum is filled with spam about having to cut every player under the sun. Anyways , before this season I was on board with the plan of letting Mo walk after this season. The contract that he's going to command is going to lock up a huge amount of time and money for a position already filled with young talent . With Williams and Richardson still on rookie contracts (even coples for that matter ), it is the logical move. Retaining Mo forces us to have talented and cheap players sitting on the bench. However , the more I watch the team this year , the more I'm starting to question if I can handle the thought of watching Mo play for a different team. He has been proving that he is indeed one of the best in the league . Players this good don't come around that often . I'm starting to think it might be a mistake not to pay the man , no matter what the cost.
Mo had a great game last night. Why the Bills chose not to block him several times is the strange part. The first sack was literally a straight run in on a retreating QB with nobody ever getting within 3 feet of Mo in the process.
Try to fit $16M a year more under the Jets cap. It just doesn't work. Look at the Texans right now and the Fins. Think they made themselves better by locking up a defensive lineman to a huge contract for the next 5 years?
I wish! Probably the same prize you'd get for not contributing at all. But seriously, the more there is to talk about the better, and Mo deserved a shout out after his dominant performance.
Hopefully not. Leonard will be on his rookie deal for the next 4-5 years and before we move on from Mo Leonard will have to prove he is an All Pro caliber player.
It's not a question of whether or not Mo is an All-Pro player. It's the reality that you really can't pay anybody but the QB the kind of money he's looking for and have a really good team. In fact, you can't even really pay the QB that much but if you already have the team around him and can squeeze in a big salary for him for a few years you might be ok anyway. Look at the 6 most highly compensated DL right now. Suh: $19M a year, although only $6M this year but the Fins are in trouble anyway. Watt: $16.67M and the Texans are in trouble. Mario Williams: $16m and the Bills are the same 5-4 the Jets are. Marcel Dareus: $15.85M ditto. Robert Quinn: $14.2M and the Rams are 4-4. Gerald McCoy: $13.6M and the Bucs are 3-5. Then you have Charles Johnson at $12.6M for the 8-0 Panthers. You just can't pay these guys like they're QB's and expect to be a great team or have them contribute to you being a great team.
Tied for our best player with Revis imo. Really hope we can lock him up on a 5 year deal around market value I'm not sure he'll be fully appreciated by our fans until we let him walk and he tears it up on his new team.
Mo is making Revis look way better than the level he is playing at. Mo is proving that he is the defensive lineman we need to keep.
He had a really nice game, and is a quality player, but if they were going to resign him, last offseason was the time to do it. He had an off year last year, and if they could've locked him up for say 11-12 million a year, might have made sense. Obviously I don't know what he was asking for. After this season he is having, and what other elite interior linemen are getting (Suh, Watt, Dareus, McCoy, etc), I think we have to let him walk or trade him. It makes no sense in terms of team success to pay that kind of money for a 3-4 DE, unless his last name is Watt. Watt is a generational talent who can consistently get 20 sacks a year to go with all the other stuff. As good as Wilkerson is, he is nowhere near that. His best year he had 10 sacks, maybe he will get 12 or so, but that is not nearly enough impact to saddle the team with the kind of contract he will get somewhere. You pay that kind of money to a great QB, maybe to a great pass rusher whose production is way higher than Wilkerson's (16-20 sacks a year on a regular basis), maybe to a 2009 Revis/Deion Sanders, and that's about it. For other positions, better to have a well rounded team.
It makes no sense to pay that much for J.J. Watt (or Darrelle Revis or arguably any of the QB's either.)
I get your point but that's not really the issue, nobody is saying in order to be great or win a SB we have to re-sign him. He's been here for a handful of years, we've always sucked since then. He doesn't make or break this team. That doesn't mean you let a young all pro who hasn't hit his prime yet just walk, that's a lot of value you flush down the toilet. If we can't re-sign him I'd be open to trading him for an early/mid 1st round pick, or a potential franchise QB (Stafford?). But you don't just let him walk. We don't have A-Rod or Russell Wilson, we don't have to save up right now to pay our QB. We don't have that type of QB and he won't just fall into our lap by accident over the offseason. So there's no point in just letting the money sit there and waiting for a miracle to happen.
