Don't be a penny wise and a dollar stupid ... some things are worth overpaying for within reason, and if Reggie Bush is not one of those things I'll streak naked down Time Square on New Years eve while wearing a "KICK ME" sign on my backside I know what the value chart says ... #4, #35, #71 and a late round pick should suffice ... but if the Saints are adamant about scraping that late round pick and transofrimg #35 into #29, you don't lose Reggie Bush over six draft slots ... Give'em #29 instead and let's all celebrate the BIGGEST GET since Sonny Werblin lassooed Joe Willie Namath away from the NFL and straight into NY Jets lore BE BOLD DARE TO BE GREAT If it takes #29 as opposed to #35, six lously slots is a small price to pay for Gale Sayers incarnate Conversely, to lose this phenom over six lously slots would be the height of folly .. penny wise and a dollar stupid I know we need more pieces, I kow we have a ton of holes to fill, but when you have a chance to land a player of this magnitude it's a once in a lifetime proposition ... either you strike while the iron is not, or you tell your Grandchildren about the time Gandpa had a chance to acquire Reggie Bush in a draft day trade and blew it, over six measley draft slots :sad: Value charts are nice fellas, I'm a big proponent of them myself, but if there's ever a time to overpay for a pending super-star of mega proportions, now is that time You only Get one chance at one of these, the Sayers, Sanders, Dorsetts, etc, they only come around so often and rarely are you even in a position to snatch one .. when it happens to be that you are, toss away the rule book and GET IT DONE .. barring injury you'll never regret it Again, I'm not talkin about overpaying wildly. just six slots over the chart price .. small price to overpay for Reggie Bush if it MAKES or BREAKS the deal
The Jets will put an offer on the table, there is no doubt about that: they will not sell the rest of the draft to get him, though.
I wouldn't either, but any deal will include #29 or #35 ... and #71 The value chart has it right in the middle on 29 and 35 ... if the Jets sent N.O. #35 they would be slightly under-paying unless they tossed in another late round picks ... and if the Jets send N.O. #29 {and keep #35}, with no additional picks other than #71, they would be overpaying IMO if the Saints insist on #29 as opposed to #35, you can't blow this deal over six measley draft slots ... let them have the 29th Pick and we'll make our next selections six picks later ... small price to overpay for Reggie Bush IMO to do otherwise would be a penny wise and a dollar stupid I might feel differenly if we were the only ones trying to trade up for Bush, but we're not .. so 29 over 35 Gives us a leg up
Jabba I think you have a pretty good grip but I was lucky enough to see Gale Sayers play and he played productively for 5 years and the Bears really didn't go anywhere with him. While it would be a privledge and very exciting to have a Gale Sayers type player to watch every Sunday for the next several years, it will do less to imporve our team than getting a QB and OL help.
It is not a question of 6 slots - it's a question of trading 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder for RB. Theoretically, the Jets can have Ferguson, White and a very good OG /OT with those 3 picks. If the Jets learned one thing from the Robertson trade - one pick is a risk and comes without a guarantee. With three picks the odds are better and fits the 'building the team from the core' concept.
I hace great confidence that the FO will not, repeat, will not be held hostage by NO. NO, has much to loose, since thay really don't want Bush that bad, and they will probably have trouble signing him. It will be great if we get him, but not at any cost.
it's not worth it to give up all your first day picks. IMO that's just plain stupid. I would be perfectly content with keeping all our picks and not trading up. I would never trade up. I mean let's say NO doesn't get a trade done, would they still take reggie bush? (actual question not rhetorical) i mean i really think they're nervous to be in this spot and they want to get out for a great deal and get D'Brick. So i think all the jets should offer is 4 and a third round pick. IMO the jets have to realize that they have a good amount of holes and trading away picks that could easily fill those holes (D'Brick, Mangold, and a DE) just doesn't make sense. I mean reggie is this great player but i think NO has realized that he wont improve that team alone and they can get a boat load of picks. Trading all ur picks for one player doesn't make any sense. Look what happened to NO when they traded all their picks for ricky. I would be very dissapointed if they give more than 4 and 35 but tangini should play some hardball knowing that NO really wants to trade out.
While I won't be upset if this happens, I don't necessarily agree this is the best thing for the franchise unless you're talking about PR and ticket sales. How many rings to Barry Sanders have? He was incredible to watch but without a supporting cast he couldn't do it alone. I just think that there's enough of a chance we could get him at #4 that we shouldn't give up too much for him. Though I would consider giving up next year's #1 and this year's #4 to get him figuring we can always trade back up next year and hopefully next year's pick will be at most a mid 1st rounder. I'm not saying I'd do this either though it's an option I'd consider because if we can keep our picks this year we can fill quite a few holes.
reggie bush is a pure risk reward back. He never had many carries in college at all. And the question im wondering, is that would that reward be enough to take us to the playoffs or the superbowl? i say NO. As a whole, getting D'Brick, Mangold and like a runing back De or a LB would be so much more worth it than reggie bush. BE BOLD, DARE TO BE GREAT, yea right. trading away all ur picks for one player is smart, look what happened when we traded just two picks for DRob (not saying he's a bust just that he has been rather dissapointing)
I waver back and forth on this one. If Bush is going to be a game changer than the picks don't scare me that much especially a 1st next year. 1st round picks cost a fortune and if you watched the Giants since the Eli trade they have done a great job of using draft money to sign quality FA's instead of drafting them to fill holes. Our problem is the likelihood of getting a quality QB in FA is practically zero and we need one. This is really why I have a problem making this move. If we have a QB targeted later who we think has a shot to be a franchise QB I have no problem trading the farm for Bush. That's a big if.
Two items: The Hershel Walker trade, the Ricky Williams trade. Ring any bells? Anything beyond the value chart would be the epitomy of stupidity.
if they keep there 2nd rd pick. and there comp pick which th e cantt rade.. we can still get croyle or clemens just like they where hoping if they took D brick at #4
why even bring them up.. Jets have no reason to trade that much to bush cause it wont cost that much. walker trade was just terrible and ricky williams is a case of HC putting his entire franchise one guys hand.
I don't know much about Clemens but Croyle with the second would be a huge reach. I would hate to see that move almost as much as picking Leinart or D'brick with 4. Simply not worth the pick in my opinion.
when are our local papers ever right.. i think im gonna go with the major media outlets on this one. espn says the saints want 4,29, and 71 to move up. no team is giving up 3 1st to trade up.
Hershel Walker was at least as good a prospect as Bush comming out and his biggest impact in the NFL, Dallas built their dynasty by trading him.
herschel Walker was never a great NFL player and Ricky was never a great NFL player when Miami traded for him(when NO traded for him they were idiots and traded their whole draft- that won't happen here as we still have a boatload of picks), obviously we don't know for sure Bush is going to be great but it's a chance I'm willing to take.
