I saw Marriucci on the NFL Network saying that the Jets need to go deep more often (I'm assuming 3&2 and 4&2 are excluded from this theory). According to Mooch: 1. The constant screens are pulling the opponents' defense closer, thus hurting the running game. Watch the replay and you can see that the Broncos always played close to the line which helped them out when we decided to run it up the gut on every first down. 2. If we go deep more often, it will free up the screens for even bigger gains since the DBs will have to stay honest to the deep pass and it will draw the safties out of the box. The only problem is that we're a team that is currently built for the screen. TJ has great vision and good moves. Leon has good vision and amazing moves. Cotchery is a strong WR with great YAC ability. Coles' assests lend him mostly to the screen since he's lost a step in years. Our only real deep threats are Keller (we need a presence in the middle, though) and Clowney (Can't get off of the innactive list without someone else going down).
The problem is neither Jets starter at receiver is effective going deep. They don't have great straight line speed, they do not make catches when covered deep and do a poor jod keeping defenders from catching interceptions. They need the third receiver to be the guy who goes deep and need to take a shot early in the game. Schotty has to work either Stuckey or Clowney into this role. It worked with Dedric Ward and even Jonathan Carter was effective getting deep.
Our screens consistently gain yardage. The deep passes are consistently incomplete or intercepted. Did "Mooch" pepper his analysis with a lot of randomly EMPHASISED words?
Next week should be the Week of David. David Clowney and David Harris. More bombs, more big hits, more fun.
Let?s not fix, what?s not broken. Yeah, we had a bad game against the Broncos, but the last few weeks, this Offense was so damn impressive, consistently pushing the Opponent over the Field on 12-15 play, 8-10 minute drives. The best Offense is one, that can consitently move the Ball.
I agree and disagree with his thoughts. We have been able to move the ball well on the ground the past few games, but obviously we run the risk of being somewhat predictable by sticking to it. So I agree with german if it aint broke dont fix it. But u have to keep teams honest and i havent seen a shot down the field in a few games. BF has thrown some long passes but nothing really DEEP downfileld. It seems like ever since Mangini and Favre had their little heart to heart the O is a bit more conservative, but yet effective. Its a double edged sword so to speak.
The only thing the Jets are really missing on offense at this point is a legitimate deep threat. It would be amazing if Clowney could fill that role but I won't hold my breath.
It shouldn't even be a subject for debate, that the Jets have no deep threat at wideout. That takes away certain options.
The Jets are 13th in the league in passing...and 2nd in the league in points per game with a 28.3 average. So essentially....if it ain't broke...don't fix it.
Bingo. It would mean a crap load of a difference if this team had a burner...even if he wasnt a very good one. Just someone to air the ball out to. Watching Coles go deep is watching Coles become a defensive back.
Maybe I have a bad memory, but I recall that it was raining in the Broncos game, and when our QB even was able to get a good throw off (which was not always), our WR either had the ball slip through his hands, our else really didn't make much effort to go after the ball. Why throw long balls if the receivers are not gonna catch them even when they are on target?
It's true that the Jets passing game is very effective, but they can't run it the way they have thusfar without other teams figuring it out. They need to keep their offense unpredictable and the deep ball being used even only twice a game would do that. And, thinking ahead, in the playoffs the Jets could face some fast defenses including the Steelers, Ravens, and Colts. Playing tight to the line, as they are wont to do, might not be so effective against these defenses.
I put Steve Mariucci's coaching criticisms on par with Kordell Stewart criticizing Ben Roethlisberger's QB play.
During the Broncos game there were a couple passes that were dropped, but the rain was definitely a factor and most of them weren't on target. People refuse to place any of the blame on Old Man Favre, when he's clearly missing his targets downfield. The Broncos dropped a lot more passes than we did.
i like marriucci but the guy loves brett favre too much for his own good. the deep ball has not been a strong point of this team or brett all year. id have to guess that at least 75% of his picks came off attempting the deep ball. thats fine if we could get some more big plays out of those attempts as well. we really haven't connected on very many. its not all on brett though. coles and cotch seem to have lots of trouble getting separation downfield. there have been few if any times since the cardinals game that i can remember one of the two completely burning the secondary this year. it just doesn't feel like this offense is built for the deep ball even with favre at qb.
Right now, Coles and Cotchery are essentially the same guy. Their skill sets are identical, strong possession receivers that can run the 15 yard in cuts, catch the ball in traffic and makes some YAC afterwards. I agree with a previous poster....you've got to be able to threaten all areas of the field with your receivers. We need to revist the 1998 WR formula: Clowney (Ward) seemed to be a legit deep threat in the preseason...he needs to be on the field full-time opposite Cotchery (Keyshawn) who will run the 10 to 20 yard routes, and I would have Coles (Chrebet) playing the slot and attacking the skinny post at sharp angles. They should also look at running that 3 receiver bunch package more as well. With this alignment, you still have your two good downfield blockers on the field for the screen plays as well.
You may be right, but if they don't even attempt to go deep you let the safeties cheat up and make life harder for that offense.
I'm not saying that the offense is broken but I think there's some truth to what Marriucci is saying. If we want to go deep in the playoffs then we need to be able to go deep on the field. The entire short-pass/screen and run based offense is great for controlling the game clock and moving the ball but when the defense has the run snuffed like the Broncos did last night than not having the extra wrinkle in the offense is really going to hurt us on the field. I know it was just one loss but there was an important lesson to be learned here. If we can't utilize the deep ball(3rd & 2 and 4th & 2 consecutively not being on the table here) in this offense than we better expect to see a lot of 8 or 9 guys in the box against us. It's going to be especially difficult in this case if we have to go against Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Indy, or even New England.
OK, I'm gonna post something that might be blasphemy to some of you. Brett Farve's arm isn't what it used to be on deep balls. Yep, that rumor about his shoulder being tired might be the reality. I've seen too much air under Farve's deep throws. Those throws are beginning to look alot like Chad's old popups. Not quite a duck, but not exactly a bullet either. I'm wondering if Farve can still throw the 30yarder on a rope. I haven't seen it much lately if at all. It doesn't help that all of our WR's are slant types that depend on YACS. Without Clowney in the lineup, we really have no deep threat. Its no wonder that defenses no longer fear Farve's deep throws. He has no one to throw them to. Just food for thought..
