What do you like about them? I'm a little clueless when it comes to College players right now. Let us know how they would improve our defense. What are their skill sets like? Are they good in coverage? Are they good at stopping the run? blitzing?
Barron is more of a SS prospect and not a side line to side lin middle of the feild or elite cover guy. He's the better of the two and not seen as a first round prospect.
The Jets could easily get them in the second maybe even third. They aren't 1st rounders, period. There arejust simply better players at more important positions. Jets need a ball hawking safety with great coverage skills. Lester and Barron will be like Jimmy, great run stoppers and very intelligent. The Jets shouldn't draft a safety high in this draft we have bigger needs and our safety concerns need to be solved by a vet in FA.
How do you feel about TJ McDonald Johnny? He seems to have more of what our safteys lack. In other words coverage and ball hawk skills. Depending on where we draft he may be around in the second.
TJ McDonald IMO is one of the better safeties coming out, projection wise. If hes there in the third you take him but we must address WR and OLB over every other need. Skills wise he reminds me of Moore from UCLA last year he is a solid cover safety and has skills to pick off the ball but I wouldn't start him this season. A vet is what we really need. My vision on safeties this year is you draft them is value is there, if not you move on and meet your next best need. I like McDonald but I wouldn't want him till later in the draft for our team.
I agree with this view depending on who's around at our picks. Unless we go WR in the fist and get one of the top end guys I think there is a bit of fall off and a few may be over valuing some of the late second round prospects. I'm also not against a RT despite the line seeming to have solidified lately. I doubt the FO is thinking of one, but I've been underwhelmed with Hunter to say the least.
It's been good that the line has been alright as of late. I still think that the third round is a lock for a tackle prospect unless a hit like Reiff falls to us in the first or Wagner in the second although even at that point Id still want to take a WR or OLB. IMO I think there will be a huge run on wideouts in this draft, most getting over drafted similar to the QBs last year. People will want that talent guaranteed to them instead of just waiting. This could be great for the Jets since it pushes better OLB prospects towards our pick in the first. I still say we need to draft a WR as early as possible over OLB but if a lid like Upshaw gets pushed to us in the later rounds you take him and never look back.
I agree with going after OLB and WR first and see if anyone is there in rounds 3-6, but don't reach. Is anyone else interested in taking a shot late (rd 5 or 6) on Janzen Jackson? He comes with major character concerns, but is a flat out talent. He was kicked out of Tennessee and transferred to McNeese St. He was a borderline first or second rounder before he was booted.
The answering of these questions would require the original poster to be Mr. E and not some guy that was watching some random college game and said hmm these kids look good.
You dont hafta be Mr.E to know whether or not Barron and Lester arent 1st rounders or their skillsets.
Bad year for the Safety position, maybe we can do something in Free Agency. Mr E would tell everyone to DIAF if we drafted Barron or Lester in Rd 2, let alone Rd 1.
There might be plenty of FA safeties this off season. If we are going to make a splash in FA it MUST be first spent on a safety unless some big named wideout wants to be a Jet.
So I know that all of the draft "gurus" here would say Barron is most definitely not a 1st round prospect, and probably not a second, but having seen what this team currently has at safety, would he be a smart pick if we were in the late second or mid third? Ive only seen some of him, and he's got pretty good speed and very good size. He may not be the ball hawk we are looking for, but he seems to be a lot more athletic than what we currently have and has to be an upgrade over Smith and Leonhard who is coming off his second season ending knee injury. Combine that injury with him being 29 and his lack of size speed combo and Jimmy seems very expendable. If he's their in the mid 3rd, I would say you have to pull the trigger... In the second I would be hesitant. So what's a real analysis on this guy? And would he be an upgrade for us and where in the draft? I mean a combo of Upshaw and Barron would be nice, most Bama players seem pro ready.
Upshaw is looking like a 10 to 15 pick. Little chance we get near him unless we lose the next two. Barron is probly going around late first/ early second because he's the best of a bad bunch. Kinda like taking home the ugly chick with the limp at 2am because shes the nicest one left at the bar. Sure it fits an immeidate need but your gonna regret it later.
I'm really intrigued by the idea of the Jets drafting Dre Kirkpatrick. He's probably a top ten guy, and if he does what I think he's capable of doing at the combine then he's definitely a top ten guy, but he's the only "safety" I would feel comfortable drafting in the middle of the first round. We need a safety who can cover like a corner. If he's capable of putting on 15, maybe 20 pounds of good weight to accommodate the position change, Rex Ryan and Dennis Thurman could make this defense something really special.
That is a very intriguing idea to move him to safety. He can tackle like a safety, and cover pretty well. I would be in favor of drafting him, and moving him to safety.
He's not one to shy away from a tackle, he can obviously cover and has great height and length to cover TE's. If he really is about 190, he would have to put on 15 lbs... if he would fill in more, which someone with his height should, he could be an ideal safety- athletic, can tackle and cover
