Margus Hunt

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  1. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    this kid played out of his mind today. 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles and forced a safety. he was all over the field for SMU. 6'8, 280 with 4.6 speed in the 40.

    what do you guys think of him? future Jet?
     
  2. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Coples and Wilkerson are our bookends on the line no need for another DE
     
  3. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Why do you peg him as a de only?

    Do people still not realize that both pace and Thomas were de's coming out of school? If we retain Rex we will be looking at DE's who are big enough to set the edge on the run game and fluid enough to play in space. Rex prefers big guys with long arms in his front 7. Hunt and Ansah should be exactly the type of guys we look at, not tiny speed rushers like mingo.
     
  4. Jeti

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    6'8 280 most likely poor on coverage which means hell likely okay with his hand in the dirt and if he stands up then he's rushing the passer and being so tall hurts him since the low man wins and powerful linemen will have their way with him

    If you're looking for a Rex type DE/OLB see Ansah, Werner, Barr and Clowney
     
  5. Harpua

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    Barr has already said he's staying in school. I've been talking about Ansah on the forum for months. Werner should be gone by our pick. I have him as the top de/OLB right now. Clowny is not eligible for this draft so is moot for the conversation for now.

    Hunt is another freak athlete type. He is incredibly agile for a man of his size. No he is not great in space, but decent enough to warrant a look. This is a guy most likely going in rounds 3-5. As the cost of the investment falls the potential on him becomes very attractive. In the 4th or 5th a project player like him becomes a very solid risk / reward pick.
     
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  7. Sanchize0829

    Sanchize0829 Well-Known Member

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    This is a weak draft, and with that size and speed for a DE with pass rushing ability, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy flies up draft boards and becomes a top 10 pick in the draft.

    This guy could become a better version of J.J. Watt.
     
  8. Harpua

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    I would hold off on that bust in canton just yet.

    He was decent in the regular season, not great. I a deep draft for pass rushers I have a hard time seeing him e en in the top half of the second. Maybe he will blow up the combine, but there are far better players out there at the position.
     
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    This is all on the assumption that he will blow up at the combine. J.J. Watt blew up at the combine. Watt never had a great college season, the most sacks he ever had in a CFB season was 7, Hunt had 8 this year I think.

    I just assume that this guy will go to the combine and teams will drool. A 6'8 280 DE who runs a 4.6, has a 36 inch vertical, a 6'10 wingspan, and 35 reps on the 225 bench. Those are just ridiculous numbers. Some team will fall in love with his size, and his freakish athleticism and they will over draft on him.

    The only two guys in the NFL who I can remember having this size and athletic ability are Watt and Julius Peppers. Peppers went 2nd, Watt went 11th.

    Someone is going to take a chance on this guy. I will predict that its in the top ten, but he is easily a first round pick just from his size and athletic ability.
     
  10. Jeti

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    I brought up those guys because they fit the mold of what we'd need at OLB

    However if Hunt is in the later rounds and the value is good I'd be all for it especially for a 4 down linemen sets where Wilk and Q lineup at DT and we rush Hunt and say our new OLB or Sapp off the edge
     
  11. Harpua

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    He is a freak athlete, but put up meh numbers against poor competition. Remember Watt played in the big ten, not conference USA. There is a huge difference in how polished these guys were coming out and not to mentio that Hunt is a couple of years OLDER than Watt already. Mostly poor tape and being 26 at the start of next season should more than hold him back despite a good combine.
     
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    Maybe my prediction of Hunt being a top ten won't happen, but I highly highly highly doubt Hunt becomes a late round pick unless he gets arrested multiple times. Right now, he is probably a late second to early third round pick. After the combine, where I assume he will blow up like all freakish athletes do, he will probably be a consensus first round pick.

    I remember the same stuff was said about JJ Watt. He didn't putt up great numbers in college, he played DE for only a few years, but he was a freakish athlete and he flew up draft boards to become the 11th pick in the draft.
     
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    You brought it up as is Hunt was way outside of the mold and I did not know what we should be looking. So I took the time to tell you how I felt about your post.

    The funny thing is you include a 6-6 clowney with no worries about his height as a problem, but 6-8 for hunt is just too much. Guess what, height is not a big problem for either man. Nor is it for the 6-7 dion Jordan. It is about athleticism to play in space and the power they can bring to the outside of a defense though. Quit worrying so much about a few pound or an inch or two and watch the guys play.
     
  14. Harpua

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    You keep ignoring that Watt played well against better competition and was also a DT at Wisconsin. Hunt played DE at Smu so comparing numbers like sacks at the NCAA level when the players where in different positions at different competition levels is silly.
     
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    Remember, this is a weak overall draft. There is a lack of impact talent. Someone will take a chance on Hunt. Yes, he is poor on tape. Yes, he is going to be 26 at the start of next year, and yes he is raw, but this happens every single year. There hasn't been anyone as unique as Hunt, but there are freakish athletes that blow up at the combine every year and become high draft picks because they are workout warriors.

    Maybe my prediction of the top ten is stretching it. However, you can't teach athletic ability. This guy will fly up draft boards, mark my words.
     
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    Either way, neither dominated in college. Watt was drafted on his potential, not his production, and Hunt will be drafted for the same reasons.

    If Hunt ever becomes polished, he could become the best defensive lineman in the NFL. He is a more athletic JJ Watt. Watt is unblockable and probably the best defensive lineman in the NFL at the moment, yet this guy is even more athletic. Imagine if this guy ever becomes polished.

    Some team will be thinking that and take a chance on him.

    I am not even saying he deserves to be drafted as high as he will. I am just saying that we both know that he will blow up at the combine, and be drafted higher than he should because of his size and athletic ability.

    Heck, the hype has already started. I am watching SportsCenter right now and basically the whole SMU vs. Fresno State highlight was dedicated to Hunt. They even had a subtitle "The next JJ Watt".
     
  17. Harpua

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    This is a weak draft for offensive playmakers. It is a very strong and deep draft at DE/OLB pass rushers.
     
  18. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    Hunt could play OLB if needed. there's also a scenario that Wilkerson would move inside the defensive line and have Hunt/Coples as our ends, just a thought.
     
  19. Sanchize0829

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    Its a weak draft for impact players. I don't see a single player in this draft that has more potential.
     
  20. Harpua

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    Not saying a monster combine will not raise his stock, but there are a ton of other guys at his position alone who have at least as much potential and will have great combines as well. Jordan and Ansah should have monster combines. Werner and Moore have monster tape and production to go alon with the very good combines they will have. If Jarvis Jones checks out medically he has already proven he is one of the best available OLB's in the nation and an instant starter at the next level. Its a very good year for edge rushers.
     

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