Just like Teddy tanking his pro day isn't all that important, Johnny Football nailing his pro day doesn't mean all that much. If you're a team and you didn't like him, this isn't moving him up your board. Interesting that he did his workout in helmet, shoulder pads and rib flack jacket. Jaws said no one had ever done that before. Apparently Idzik was there. http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10683601/johnny-manziel-texas-aggies-dazzles-pro-day COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Johnny Manziel's NFL pro day had a former president, lots of swag, a Drake soundtrack and even some football, too. The 2012 Heisman Trophy winner threw for 75 officials from 30 teams on the Texas A&M campus on Thursday. He also had some special guests, as former President George H.W. Bush and wife Barbara -- and her two dogs -- rolled into the facility on golf carts about 10 minutes into the workout. The always flashy Manziel was true to his over-the-top Johnny Football persona on Thursday, trotting into the facility with his receivers as a tune by his buddy Drake blasted through the building. He wore camouflage shorts, a black Nike jersey with his white No. 2 and caused a stir by wearing shoulder pads and a helmet. Manziel didn't understand why it was a big deal. "You play the game on shoulder pads on Sundays," he said. "Why not come out and do it? ... For me it was a no-brainer." Manziel threw about 65 passes to six receivers, including former A&M teammate Mike Evans, who like Manziel is expected to be a first round pick in May's draft. Only two passes weren't caught, and Evans grabbed a third long pass out of bounds. "I felt like it was good," Manziel said. "(I) was obviously going for perfection. So had a couple balls hit the ground. One was on me. One was a little bit high. I could've got it down for him a little bit." Quarterback guru George Whitfield ran the workout. Manziel has worked with Whitfield throughout his career and has spent a big chunk of the last 2½ months working with him in California. Whitfield raved about Manziel's competitiveness. "This wasn't just merely a set of routes that he was just going to go through and throw," Whitfield said. "It just feels like ... life is riding on every pass with him." Eight NFL general managers and eight head coaches were among the group, including Texans general manager Rick Smith and coach Bill O'Brien. Houston has the top overall pick in the draft. Smith and O'Brien liked what they saw from Manziel, but both cautioned that this is just one step in a long process. "He made the throws that you look for and that you wanted to see, so it was good," Smith said. "It's just a part of it and it was impressive." New York Jets quarterback Michael Vick, taken first overall by the Atlanta Falcons in the 2001 draft, praised Manziel on Twitter. Also excited by Manziel's performance was LeBron James. Manziel recently signed with Maverick Carter, a longtime friend and business associate of the Miami Heat star.Manziel, who started at A&M for two seasons, planned to meet with several teams on Thursday afternoon after the workout. Several coaches were impressed that Manziel called all the NFL officials onto the field at the end of his workout to personally thank them for coming. "College Station's a little bit of a tricky spot to get to," he said. "For me to call those guys up, just wanted to speak on my behalf as well as the six guys behind me and thank them for coming out." Tampa Bay coach Lovie Smith, who grew up in Big Sandy, Texas, enjoyed seeing Bush at the event. "That's a first, a workout with an ex-President," Smith said. "But they do things a little differently in Texas, which is a good thing, me being a Texan." Bush sat in his golf cart during the event and posed for pictures with dozens of people afterward. But Secret Service agents shooed away reporters looking to talk to the 41st President. Manziel said he didn't notice when Bush came in. "No," he said. "I was trying to go 65 for 65." Several more Drake songs played after his introductory one and he looked loose during the workout, at times bobbing his head, covered in the matte black helmet, to the beats. There was a brief hitch in the playlist, though. When he began the workout the explicit and expletive-laden versions of the songs were played. When the 89-year-old Bush entered the building, the soundtrack quickly switched to an edited version of the same songs. He worked under center, making throws of all distances, on the run and in the pocket. Whitfield added some challenges to the workout, waving a broom and chasing him with it on several throws. "We wanted to show that we didn't have anything to hide, that we could come out here and go through our seven-step footwork and go through all the footwork that we thought that these guys want to see," Manziel said. He finished the day with a long completion to Evans and yelled 'Boom!' and the assembled crowd broke into applause. Whitfield was pleased with how the day went and thinks Manziel has improved since the end of the season. "He learned how big of a jump it is to go from playing on Saturdays to playing on Sundays and it's a grueling process," Whitfield said. "Secondly he's come an awfully long way in his body. He's an awful lot stronger. He's put in his work." _
They should do controlled scrimmages for Pro Days. Helmet and Pads don't mean shit when a guy is chasing you around with a broom.
I hate pro days and combines. They are both so overrated. Only thing that matters is how you play the game on the field. Manziel is going to be a stud. I'll take production over the combine warriors (Stephen Hill, Hayward-Bey, ect..) anyday. When I see guys like Van Noy getting dropped down the drop boards I love it for us and hate it for the player.
I also like that he wore pads and helmet. However, I have this sneaky suspicion that his non-football activities will get him in trouble. Once he gets into the big lights with the big contract his college exploits will pale in comparison. I hope I'm wrong. I also hope the Jets stay clear.
Ive gone back and forth on Manziel, but I think he will make it in the NFL. He like the type of a guy that if you are going to be wrong, you are going to be dead wrong.
I didn't like him a year ago after his first great year at A&M, I didn't think his game would translate to the NFL but I have changed my mind. It started in the offseason w/ a special on sportscenter and I saw how he was changing his mechanics. The man has an NFL arm, the concerns are maturity and durability. he took some big shots and kept playing at A&M but those shots will get bigger in the NFL. we'll see.
The passes he was throwing blew me away yesterday, with good coaching, it looks like he could make all the passes a conventional QB can make. Going to Houston would likely be ideal for his NFL success beause Obrien would really impact his overall playstyle. If he went to cleveland with Petine, it would not be good imo, he needs to get to a team with elite offensive coaches. Ideally if he could get to San Fransisco it would likely be the best spot for him, but im not sure he drops that far, but if he did I think the 49ers would take him in a heartbeat, because they will have to pay Kaepernick either this offseason or next. Kaep still hasnt gotten has contract yet which leads me to believe the 49ers are wating for the draft, so they might be looking at some QBs.
This is exactly where I am. I have no confidence in the certainty of the prediction, but I just feel like there's an obscene amount of talent, and football intelligence specifically, in the kid. I get all the detractions against him, as they have merit, but I just feel like there's too much other fantastic stuff going on with him as a prospect to justify the "boom/bust", "huge risk" tags that have become his accepted evaluations.
Id rather be right about this then wrong, so im going to say he makes it in the nfl becuase if I say he doesnt and he does I will look like a fool, whereareas if I say he will make it in the NFL, and he busts, it is what it is then.
Manziel is a great salesman. He's selling himself with wearing all the pads at the pro-day. Still question if he'll get destroyed and injured when he leaves the pocket...likely he will
Interesting. So you don't base your opinion on conviction, you base your opinion on what you think people will think of you in the future as to whether you guessed "right" or "wrong". And THAT'S why you're concerned you'll look like a fool? _
No I base 99% of my opinions on conviction, Manziel falls in the 1% where I can absolutely not get a grip of whether or not he will be a bust or not. Im leaning towards a good NFL player but I cant get a good read on him.