From today's NY Post.. https://nypost.com/2020/10/03/joe-douglas-shares-in-the-blame-for-this-jets-debacle/
I mean, it’s not exactly a hard story to write, and I didn’t even read it because I read it here a few times a day.
I agree this roster is worse than when he started , this is what happens when your team is out of sequence, fire the GM keep the Coach, he didn't draft Darnold and Gase isn't his pick as Coach, just the usual Jet hot mess
Functional organizations hire the GM, then picks his Coach then they draft the QB they want, but this organization hasn't been functional for 51 years and counting
And we’re stuck hoping that this is the time they finally get it right. That the Johnsons finally understand what they’ve been doing wrong. I wonder how much of it is pure vanity? Do they want to be able to tell everyone that they picked the coach if/when the team starts winning? Is that more important than actually winning?
This is such a misconception at this point. However it does have one point that is really valid: functional organizations hire a strongman (GM or HC) and then give him a subordinate to work in concert with towards a shared goal. Both guys are on the same page because the strongman sets the agenda and then the other guy does everything he can to support it. Successful examples of strong HC and caterer GM include the Pats, the Seahawks and The Chiefs. Successful examples of paired HC and GM - where neither reports to the other - include the Steelers, the Ravens, the 49ers, the Packers and the Bills (*maybe). Successful examples of strong GM hiring his HC include the Bears (*maybe) and the Titans (*maybe). The NFL doesn't have a lot of really successful teams at any given point in time. The ones that tend to be dominant are the ones with good ownership, a great HC and/or a strong brain trust guiding the team collectively through the haze of the NFL. The model of the strong guy being the GM has long past us. That was the 70's and 80's and even then the HC was often more important than the GM. By the 90's the HC was often the de facto GM as well, although that model left the building with the retirements of Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells and Mike Ditka.
The blueprint is and has always been GM, then Coach , then QB not ass backwards like this shithole organization so I disagree with you
Sometimes you need to take a step back before you can take a leap forward. JD is trying to build through the draft. Signing 3-4 high priced vets might have made the Jets more competitive this year (maybe we’d be 5-8 win team), but realistically we are double that (5-8 players) from being good. You can’t just sign away the future on FA’s as when you come up short (no SB), you are right back where you started. We need to be patient, give JD more time imo. He’s taking the right approach, Jets need to tank some and nail their picks. I think he’s the right man for the job... The Jets minimally need: OT Pass Rusher WR CB LB TE RB
Who cares what the writers think? JD already had a better draft than Macagnan had in 5 years. Adam Gase is the problem, he is a terrible HC with a resume to prove it. JD already said it and I believe he will draft according to his philosophy, a team is built from the trenches out. He’s going to get a couple of more years to prove it, but as long as Gase is the HC this team will continue to be garbage.
Thank you!! Im so tired of hearing people blame the org chart like their is only one option & the Jets are somehow outliers. Of all the criticisms about the Jets this is by FAR the weakest. There are 100 things wrong w the Jets before the org chart structure emters the discussion. There simply is no one set way & the Jets are far from alone in their approach. It’s not 1996 anymore.
I’ll give him blame for not re-signing Robby and not taking another receiver with one of the two third round picks they had. This team is so poorly coached on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball it’s crazy. The guys on the offensive side of the ball look they have no idea what they’re doing and that’s not a talent issue, that’s a coaching issue.
But when the HC hires the GM, I think there is an issue! That’s how dysfunctional the jets are right now! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
JD - It was foolish to let Robbie go. The OL is the same or worse this year. Thursday nights game looked like the last 5 years all in one, our QB running for his life on virtually every pass play, and getting banged around like a rag doll. Never will I forget Trevor Siemian last year against Cleveland, it looked a lot like that the other night. The defense sucks, it makes a nobody QB look like Joe Montana. Douglas' first draft looks pitiful now. Maybe Becton (seems like a good player but will probably be injured more than healthy), the punter, and that is it. He drafted a WR that we may never see hit the field, a safety who is nothing, a back up to a backup QB, a RB who is bleh, a supposed pass rusher - Jabari Zuniga who hasn't been seen since he played in College. Sorry but Ozzie Newsome would not have drafted such trash so if JD learned from him, he must have been absent a lot LOL. Under Newsome, the Ravens have NEVER been bad. Gase - The Gase administration looks just like the Bowles administration. Poorly prepared, undisciplined, boring as f**k teams who play scared and not to lose (kicking the FG to go up 1 on 4th and 1 drove me bonkers), who basically quit when the going gets tough. Never make adjustments or scheme to the opponents weaknesses, or our strengths (which are non existent anyway, but..). Once we fall behind by more than 3 points, we all know it's game over since They can only muster 1 offensive TD per game if that. Name me 1 Jet fan who did not know we would lose after wimping out and kicking the FG the other night late in the game. We have seen them show up and just go through the motions when even they realize they have zero chance to win, which this year, is every week LOL as they are clearly the worst team in football; it isn't even close. Oh, and never EVER do they come from behind to win a ballgame late in the 4th quarter. Bottom line - Lose out, go 0-16 take the 1 pick and trade it for a haul to rebuild this god awful roster and GET SOME NFL TALENT and SPEED IN HERE. I go out and draft 2 top WR's, a RB, 1 pass rusher, a CB, and R and L G's. No punters, no safeties, no scrub QB's, and no more "best player in the draft" DT's.
Well to be fair, the jury is still out on JD draft, because of injuries, but so far looks like shitshow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I get that GM hiring his guy, provides a conflict of interest in some cases, and that’s why the whole reason to be autonomous and both report to CEO separately. I think either way will work provided you have the right people. In jets case currently we have conflict of interest. The HC hired the GM, the GM feels as we f he can’t give fair assessment of HC cause he got him the job, the HC in no doubt would back stab the GM cause he’s narcissistic (of course not his fault). Unfortunately we have CEO with no football IQ and little business acumen. So HC has CEO’s because the CEO bought his BS when he hired him... That is why he stands by him, he doesn’t want to look like fool, and doesn’t want to kill the HC career. So HC won out because of that and got Macc canned. Starting to get why not working in so many ways! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think we can agree that there's an over-arching dysfunction in the organization. If the managerial organization doesn't meaningfully contribute, then what are the causal factors in your opinion?