His record against teams with winning records (using the end-of-season record for 06/07 and the current record for 08) is 3-12 (.200). Against .500 teams he's 2-3. Against losing teams he's 12-6. This includes the Cards as a winning team this year & the PO loss to NE in 06
His head coaching career is still far too small of a sample size for this to mean anything. He had a great first year and a tough second year. It looks like his third year will be very good again. He is still a very promising coach with tremendous upside and I'm glad we have him.
Actually Mangini's total record is: 10-6 0-1 4-12 3-2 17 Wins and 21 losses in 38 career games including playoffs. His winning percentage based on the 38 games is .447 not .250--just to clarify. Still not that great.
And in Herman Edwards final 20 games as NYJ Head Coach, he was 5-15. So its an improvement. Mangini is far from being on the hot seat.
Mangini is 17-20. Under .500. Thats all that matters to me. Hopefully by the end of year he will be over .500.
You realize this is only because any NY coach in a major sport is "on the hot seat" if they miss the playoffs? Especially when they're "supposed to," which is annually anyway.
when you take over a rebuild job, your record the first two years is bound to be under .500. see walsh, tuna under the giants, belli under the browns and pats, tuna under the pats, tuna under the jets, tuna under the cowboys, fox at carolina, marty shott under 3 teams, etc. it even took weeb almost 5 years to win the super bowl.
Another old quote, "That doesn't make sense." You know what else they used to say? "Pitchers win games." It doesn't mean it's true at all. It's just a simplification for the sake of it. Herm Edwards after 2 years: 19-13
Herm took over a team that was built by Parcells and was coming off a 9-7 team. Mangini took over a team that was 4-12 left by Herm.
Better teams win more games, that's why they are better teams and why anyone's record against them won't be as good. Nothing shocking or even unusual about this stat.