Mangini made questionable decisions all seasons long

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  1. MyFavoriteMartin5

    MyFavoriteMartin5 New Member

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    There seems to now be a huge movement that says Favre was most to blame for the season and there are some who think that Mangini should be rehired. While I agree with Thomas Jones that his INTS definitely killed us (he seemed to not care at times to me whether he threw an INT), Mangini really was the one who killed us and there were questions all season long. Here is a breakdown of some of the things he did and why he shouldn't be the head coach anymore:

    Week 1: Not having a guy who could kick an extra point. Not the biggest deal since the Jets one (thanks Darelle Revis), but c'mon MAN, I'm sure there are people who post who could kick an extra point. What Ben Grahanm couldn't

    Week 2: Not going after Cassel, this guy was in his first start and Mangini didn't do what the Dolphins did in week 3 and just send everything at him. A horiffic loss

    Week 4: This wasn't the big deal, but he did play a prevent defense in the second half and just let warner pick the defense apart, instead of staying aggressive - a sign of things to come

    Week 6: This team came out flat against Oakland and again a sign of things to come

    Week 8: Accepting the holding penalty and making it 3rd and 15 instead of 4th down. Boy Elam really bailed Mangini out of this anyone since he takes an INT for 6 in a couple plays, but Buffalo still got that 3rd down converted.

    This is really to the Mangini apologists, this guy didn't make good decisions throughout the year, and we were lucky some of them didn't kill us and take our record to 7-9. This franchise needs a coach who can make better IN-GAME DECISIONS PERIOD.
     
  2. TommyGreen

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    The kicking thing in week 1 wasn't as bad as running 3 straight times in the Red Zone.
     
  3. MyFavoriteMartin5

    MyFavoriteMartin5 New Member

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    Touche TommyGreen
     
  4. AbdulSalam

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    Mangini made many poor decisions this season. he is a young coach and we should expect him to make poor decisions due to inexperience. If you hire a young coach, he will make poor decisions in pressure situations. Mangini is smart, but being smart doesn't mean you are always thinking and rationally during the game. No Balls.
     
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    This is EXACTLY why we should hire an experienced head coach this offseason. I don't want to wait while a coach receives on the job training.
     
  6. Gunther

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    To blame Mangini is ridiculous. All coaches make bad decisions that can win and lose games. Parcells made them, but I suppose you think you are a better manager of a game than he is.
    Blame Mangini all you want but the debacle that we had this season started before the season got underway. The Jets will be shit next year and the year after that, and Mangini will not be the one to blame.
     
  7. Ralphw

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    it seems Mangini put the defense into cruise control during the second half of a lot of games,,, The second NE game comes to mind
     
  8. Ralphw

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    Not sure how you can say that,,, how do you go for it on 4th down knowing if you miss the other team is in automatic field goal range to put the game out of reach and the season over?


    He made horrific decisions that yes, even I could have done better
     
  9. TommyGreen

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    Are you kidding me? Our defensive playcalling has been absolutely MISERABLE and we played way too conservative when it mattered the most. Mangini lost control of his locker room as well, and while he's not the only cause of the collapse, he is the one who should have gotten everything under control.
     
  10. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    I tell you, even worse then the defensive play calling, read some of these posts in these game threads.... WWWWWWWWWooooooooooooohhhhhhh, these are Jet fans?
     
  11. AbdulSalam

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    Mangnini made horrible in game decisions. Indefensible. That is why I favor hiring an experienced proven HC over a newbie. The Jets are a good team, this is not a rebuilding situation. We need a HC who knows how to call a game and can improve on the good team that we already have in place.
     
  12. Bosko

    Bosko Guest

    This is the kind of stuff that make me crazy. Mangini wasn't just another NFL coach who made a few bad decisions. He was a TERRIBLE coach. People who post stuff like this MUST read more about what happened this season and stop posting your ignorant and irresponsible comments.

    From the NY Daily News (12/30/2008):
    TOO HANDS ON
    Mangini didn't call the offensive or defensive plays, but he was heavily involved in all apsects of the operation.
    "The biggest thing I heard from upstairs (the front office) was that he didn't trust anyone," one player said. "He wouldn't let his coaches coach. He had his hand in everything."
    Former Jets assistants have complained over the years that Mangini, known for his rigid rules and cloak-and-dagger paranoia, created a difficult working environment."

    In other words--maybe all the people calling for Bob Sutton and Brian Schottenheimer to be fired during this past season were calling for the wrong guy's head.

    Certainly, the swiftness with which Mangini was fired, and the fact that ALL of his coaches were retained, tells you a lot. As does the fact that Tannenbaum was all for it, and never stood up for his "old friend."

    Please, all of you Mangini supporters have to stop, already. He was a TERRIBLE head coach!
     
  13. savinoRB2

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    With my experience playin D-1 football......I realized that head coaches do jack shit. They get all the fame and glory and all the hate and shame.

    Mangini is there to motivate the players and guide them through games.....They DO NOT make the calls on offense (Shotty's job) and they DO NOT make the calls on the defense (Sutton's job). They are strictly there to overlook the game, players, and coaching staff. That is where he fucked up making sometimes bad decisions and no half time adjustments. i hate how people blame him for bad offense and bad defense calls tho, thats not him.

    He was a very good coach and we are going to miss him.

    Brett Farve was a great part of all our failures as a team. It is reality. I guarentee Shotty never ran the ball as much because Woody was always on his ass(no homo) telling him to let Brett throw the ball. Thats my hunch because Woody really wants to sell those PSL's.

    Those PSL's are the devil I tell you!
     
  14. savinoRB2

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    Thats how Belicheck runs it. Too bad hes a genius:mad:
     
  15. Jake

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    Yeah, those were dumbass calls and I totally forgot about them. I totally don't know what to think of Mangini as a coach he showed flashes of brilliance and was a POS the same amount. I'm hoping for Rex Ryan though. You just never know who can and who cannot manage a game and it's clear EM couldn't.
     
  16. Firemangini Ed

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    Over-controlling comes from fear and fear comes from feeling weak. Now, why does Manstupid feel weak?
     

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