----------------------------------------------- Its going in the right direction , its just the reast of the league are moving quicker , so we won't ever get there.
I don't really see how Mangini is actually blaming Chad for this season. Everyone wanted the QB change and anyone with any brains knew that the problems weren't all Chads fault.
He hasn't said it in so many words. But when everything started to go tits up , he rode it , and then the only real change that has been made is benching Chad. He benched him because..........
Yep, that's the point of high levels of competition. You have to be gaining every year or you're falling behind. When you're just marking time as the Jets are this season you're falling way behind. And I agree with the writer in this case. The order of fault in the Jet's results this year goes: front office/coaching staff for the lousy offseason, coaching staff for the horrible preparation and weak game plans outside the Steelers game when they had two weeks to prep and then finally on the players for not executing. The person most responsible for the debacle at this point is Eric Mangini because he had his fingers in the most different pies in the baking process and they're all still bitter-tasting.
The guy took over a team with no QB no OL and no DL. You have admitted that Chad isn't right and clearly the big difference between last year and this year is Chad's play coupled with injuries to Coles and Jones. Clemens isn't ready yet. A rebuilding team with an injured QB, Pennington, playing at a bad level turns close wins into close losses. The reality is if Clemens doesn't develop Mangini and Tannenbaum are gone. If he does develop they deserve a huge amount of credit for getting a young team playoff experience whith a new system, new QB and the team was over hauled. You can't go from no QB, no running back, no lines to a contender in 2 years. Parcells did it because he inherited a partially rebuilt team and spent the future on some big FA's and got lucky with Vinny for 1 year. We had 1 serious run, one.
I wonder if perhaps Mangini and Tannenbaum wanted more change in the past offseason, but couldn't be seen to be dismantling a playoff team in case it turned out badly and they were made to look like idiots.
The Jets have had 9 first day picks over the last two seasons. This is how they've spent them: QB - 1 RB - 0 OL - 2 DL - 0 WR - 0 LB - 2 DB - 2 Trade - 2 That's why we're stuck in the muck. You correctly identified our needs and what it would take to get back to respectability, why couldn't the pros who run the Jets do that? Note that the two traded picks were not spent to take players in your needs list, they were spent to take a LB and a DB.
How many players were brought in either through FA or undrafted for those positions? In a 3/4 scheme LB is part of the LOS on the defensive side of the ball.
That's what makes the Jets a bad team. You cannot win in the NFL if you're getting pushed around by all the teams who have prepared to win by adequately building their lines.
You build a team through the draft, supplemented by high profile free agent signings. The Jets have had just one high profile free agent signing in the Tannenbaum era, Andre Dyson at CB. The facts are that the Jets have seriously mis-allocated their resources in the first two years of the rebuilding program and that is why they look more in need of a rebuild now than they did after the collapse season of 2005.
Tell me. What coach really knows after 5 STARTS if a 2nd year QB is the real deal or not? Other than Marino, what superstar QB tore it up their first year? Yes he made the move off Chad to find out what he has with Clemens. Can someone tell me how you find out whether or not someone can play without actually playing them. And no one said it was all Chads fault, but anyone who can look at the way Chad was playing and think he'd be a part of the solution is flat out delusional. The Jones thing would be the offensive line but I do find it interesting that there's no mention of Chads red zone INT's. I think the most important thing to remember here is that Chad wasn't an offensive threat what so ever anymore
The most important thing for me is that there was such a clear disconnect between the results on the field and the strategies employed by the coaches. Watching Chad throw 90% of his passes within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage week after week without getting results was just mind-numbing. It appears that Kellen Clemens was not ready for the starting job when Chad was in the process of giving it up. Why did he not get the ball against more forgiving teams earlier in the season to begin to build some successes? He's going to be in hell against everybody but Miami and Kansas City moving forward. The thing that has soured me on Mangini above all else is this vague feeling that he bought into the Mangenius stuff last season and completely missed what would be required of him this season in order to stave off a disaster. Every time I see the cell phone commercial I ask myself if he didn't have something better to be doing in the offseason than hiring an agent and looking for outside work.
You really have a strong hatred for Mangini. What will you do when they are winning and going deep into the playoffs? Will you have to root for the Dolphins since you hate Mangini so much? Do you throw eggs at his house?
I really don't get what some are seeing out of Clemens thats so bad... He's learning... he's gonna make mistakes.... especially when he's running for his life because of a lack of protection... I like his arm... and he seems to have a good head on him and doesn't rattle.... Cut the kid some slack... it's been 5 games...
By 2003 the Patriots had signed Mike Vrabel, Rodney Harrison, Rosevelt Colvin, Larry Izzo and Ted Washington to lucrative free agent contracts. With the exception of Izzo all of the players signed were regulars who filled a substantial need for the team and all produced at high levels. Izzo was an all-pro special teamer before he came to the Pats and after he arrived. Although not as active in free agency over the same timeframe the Steelers signed James Farrior and Jeff Hartings in the free agent market to fill yawning gaps in their schemes. The Colts just don't sign free agents. They only build through the draft and they have a very successful draft record. The Jets to date in the Tannenbaum era have signed one primetime free agent in Andre Dyson. They have made a bunch of other "wishes" signing aging free agents and backups to try to fit into their schemes. Doing that and putting up 5 bucks will get you a latte at Starbucks and not much more.
I think this writer was wrong. If putting the blame on Chad was his intent, then why did he stick with him for half the season when many fans (especially on this board) were calling for Chad's head after Week 2? He gave Chad every opporunity to bring the team back. He was pulled after he couldn't get the job done and the season was lost. An evaluation of Clemens needs to be made to determine needs for next season. The QB position is only one problem of many. The Jets need to address many issues this off-season, to numerous to write about here.
I don't have any problem with Clemens at this point. I think he's doing about as well as he's been prepared to do. The offensive line blows chunks and the receivers available to him have the dropsies. This is very similar to Richard Todd's situation when he was handed the starting job and he managed to put together a couple of very good seasons when things solidifed around him in the early 80's. My point is that if Clemens was going to struggle early on there were better things to do than hold him out until the meat of the schedule was upon the Jets.
1) Vrabel was a regular? (in 4 seasons with Pittsburgh he had 56 tackles and was used as a situational pass rusher and on special teams.) 2) Harrison signed a 6 year contract for $14 million with a $2.5 million bonus (that's a pretty cheap signing) 3) Colvin signed for $25 million for 6 years (This was the one big signing they made prior to this offseason) 4) Ted Washington was traded from the Bears to the Pats for a 4th round pick.
