Just saw it on the Herd http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...rt-to-season-turns-south?module=breaking_news
Sucks for him... he did a good job putting a team in the right direction again... with some proper talent in this draft the Browns can aim at .500 season... it just sucks for them to be in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers...
Didn't his mentor walk the plank there years ago and go on to become a legend? I'm pretty sure this isn't the last we'll hear of Eric Mangini..
Well that is too bad. He did a decent job turning that club around and at least pointing them in the right direction. They are a few holes away from becoming respectable again, but I think he could have done it. Be interesting to see what he does now. I think he would probably do better dropping down to the college level and coaching for a while. I think some of his schtick would fit better there.
He's seemingly the Buck Showalter of wayward football teams for the NFL. He gets them straightened out, but cannot get them to the next level, it seems. Fortunately for him, he's young. He can go be a coordinator somewhere for a few years and still get back into the head coaching game. Or, perhaps college, where maybe his style is better suited? Although, I cannot see him building enthusiasm with respect to recruiting.
:rofl2: I really don't see how anyone would want to move to Cleveland voluntarily. Not that great a town although the Corned Beef Sandwhiches are great. Somehow, "Mistake by the Lake" still applies to that town even today..
After the upsets of NO and NE, he went 2-6...thats fucking terrible. I can't believe one of those 2 wins were against my garbage team.
I find it interesting that a guy who led the team to two consecutive years of 5-11 is viewed as turning the team around. The Detroits and Oaklands are the overwhelming exceptions - in the NFL, virtually every team will bounce around with 3 or 4 wins or losses changing from year to year just by random chance. If anything, to me Mangini has had less success than you would expect from a decent coach, not more, even given the quality of the team. He got lucky in a few games with the Jets in his first year, but otherwise, what exactly have his teams actually done that gives even the slightest indication that he is a good coach? People like him are a dime a dozen, and his awful people skills certainly don't add to the positive side of his ledger. Not only don't I think he is above-average NFL head coaching material, I think there is little evidence that he's even NFL defensive coordinator material.
Mangini is proof that the Patriots perform a partial lobotomy before allowing employees to leave their company.
Turned around, pointing in the right direction. I didn't say he made any progress in that direction. :smile: He needs more experience, and I wouldn't say he's above average at all. Average at this point. But I think he has potential. I thought if he could spend a couple of years under Holmgren it would be a good thing for him.
Good point! I'm willing to agree that he could be average; I guess the difference is that I don't see any reason to think that he's going to become above average in the future. He has 5 years of NFL head coaching experience; why would he get better at this point? Remember, people said the same thing about Herm, but he was who we thought he was ... People like to point to close losses and say that all it takes is for those to turn into wins and you have a successful team, but that's just not the way it works. The consistently good teams (and coaches) are the ones that win the blowout games, not the close ones.
I like mangina it sucks for him but, i do want to thank him for the nacho without him he wouldn't be a New York Jet....
He's been a head coach for 5 years. How much more experience can he possibly need? He's not very good and most of his players hate him. That's not a good combo.
He could very well have hit his ceiling as a coach. Five years is a lot of time. The one knock I have on him is he appears to be rather inflexible and adamant to remain on his own path. I was hoping that if he spent some time around different coaching talent that he would learn some new tricks. While Belichick is the football coaching genius of all coaches, he hasn't proved to be a tree that bears much fruit in terms of coaching talent. His guys manage to land coaching gigs, and most have crashed and burned.
Not to compare him with Belichick, but he looked like a turd for a HC after his stint with Cleveland originally. Five years is a lot of time, but some folks take longer to mature. It's not exactly the same, but take QBs that suck for years and ride bench, to become journeyman, and eventually get a shot at starting and then suddenly they don't suck so much. It happens. He'd do well to take a lower role in the league and put more time in. And the whole business about his people skills, and his players hating I just don't buy into. A lot of that is media bullshit. They like to stir the pot and print drama stories to sell newspapers. Those guys in Cleveland looked like they were buying into Mangini's system. few weeks ago he got a Gatorade bath on a win. It's not as bad as they make it out in that area.
