Maccagnen: "Draft Picks are for sale"

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  1. BomberJet

    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    It seems the Jets are laying the cards on the table.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/s...-team-draft-picks-including-no-6-overall-sale

    New York Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan has put out the word: His draft picks are for sale, including the No. 6 overall pick.

    "We're open for business in every round," Maccagnan told reporters Friday at the scouting combine in Indianapolis. "If somebody wants to move up in any round and we have a pick in that round, call us up."

    The Jets are interested in acquiring additional picks because they want to rebuild through the draft and they'd like as many choices as possible "to expedite the process." As of now, they have seven picks, including four in the top 107.

    There are certainly plenty of holes to fill.

    The Jets have become one of the biggest stories of the offseason, as they've already released five veteran players, including wide receiverBrandon Marshall, cornerbackDarrelle Revis and center Nick Mangold. All told, they've cleared about $46 million in cap space.

    Team officials don't agree with the perception that the Jets are in a rebuilding phase.

    "I know we've made quite a few moves this offseason, but a lot of it is predicated on how we feel about the younger players," Maccagnan said. "With the money we freed up, hopefully we'll be able to help ourselves in different areas."

    Quarterback is a priority position, he said. The Jets met on Thursday with the top quarterback prospects -- Deshaun Watson, Mitch Trubisky and DeShone Kizer. Chances are, they will try to find a starter in free agency, with Mike Glennon emerging as a likely target.

    The Jets have two unproven quarterbacks on the roster in Christian Hackenberg and Bryce Petty, who is recovering from surgery on his non-throwing shoulder. He will start throwing in April, according to Maccagnan.

    One position they haven't touched is running back, but Maccagnan didn't rule out the possibility of using the sixth pick -- if he keeps it -- on a running back. The Jets have been linked to LSU's Leonard Fournette in mock drafts.

    "Would I consider a running back at six? Absolutely, if I thought he was worth that high a pick," Maccagnan said.

    As for the roster purge, Maccagnan hinted that most of the major moves have been made. Sources said players such as Eric Decker, Marcus Gilchrist, Calvin Pryor and Buster Skrine are in jeopardy, depending on whom the Jets sign in free agency. The Jets are expected to shop defensive end Sheldon Richardson.

    Maccagnan didn't rule it out, noting they have a "wealth of talent" on the defensive line, and he will "look at all options."

    Decker appears safe -- for a few months, anyway. Maccagnan said he wouldn't make a decision on the veteran receiver until he has recovered from hip and shoulder surgeries, adding it will be another few months before Decker's shoulder is healed. He expects Decker to be ready for Week 1.

    "Our goal is to get him healthy and then kind of evaluate how he comes off the injuries," Maccagnan said.
     
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  2. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Saw all this in todays paper and I cant help but think there is a balance of power shift to our GM vs the "equal footing" with Toilet Bowles

    Why? I believe there is pressure on MM to retool the team but more so on the CS

    The Owner must suspect one part of the equation is screwing up on the field what the other creates

    So no..its NOT MM job to win games just provide the young talent with the right contracts

    Hopefully things go according to (my) plan and the CS still causes us to lose bad...MM continues to do a lot better job (he better) and the talent sticks around while Bowles gets evicted

    jmho
     
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  3. Jetaho

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    It's refreshing to hear this from our FO, but I won't believe it until I actually see us trade down.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I think we need to stop creating this whole Mac vs Bowles ordeal. This type of negative talk doesn't help the football team.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i don't think any of it is true either. i don't see woody pulling the plug on either right after they start the rebuild. i'd expect bowles to get an extension after this year so he is not a lame duck going into 2018. (not sure if mac had a 4 or 5 year deal so not sure if he gets an extension)
     
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  6. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Ruj had the thought that mac was being too nice to TB and talked into things...Do YOU think the GM and HC are on the same page 24/7?

    at this point I am no longer a fan of either of them frankly

    and unless they are listening ..no harm no foul
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I think they share the same vision at the end of the day. I'd say they are on the same page. Last year was a silly attempt at trying to win again. Didn't work out now they are rebuilding the roster.

    Bowles doesn't believe in tanking and that's why he's saying he's not "rebuilding". He's going to try and win each and every week with the players they have available. It won't work, and the Jets will still have a crappy record but they are building towards the future. Tanking doesn't attract players to the franchise. Bowles and Mac will probably both get a 2 year extension. Especially if they get a qb next yr.
     
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    I don't want them to tank, and I respect that Bowles for wanting to win every game. Tanking doesn't guarantee anything except a losing record. What if you tank and win 2 games? But Cleveland or Chicago or some other team loses more? Now you don't even have the #1 pick, and so you don't even get your choice of which "Guaranteed QB" you want. And even if you DO get the #1 pick, there's no guarantee that the QB you grab will work out. This is why I bang the drum for taking a QB this year, as well as adding as many "O" skill pieces you can. Then, if Bowles actually shows coaching ability, and with this infusion of talent wins 7 or 8 games, you're not screwed with the lower draft order you get.

    Good coaches - and I'm not saying that Bowles is necessarily "good" - always try to win, which is also why no one should count on a #1 or #2 worthy record this year, especially with a softer schedule. As they used to say, "That's pie in the sky".
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    it is not about purposely tanking, it is not trying to get one more season out of a team that didn't have one more season in it last year and then letting nature take its course.don't replaced the 30 somethings with 29 y.o.'s. don't try to make the playoffs with a qb that has never made the play offs. trust that you knew what you were doing when you moved up 2 years ago to grab a qb in the 4th and if that does not work find out about the qb you grabbed in the 2nd last year. make this years picks immediate back ups for spots that are locked down already and competitors for spots that may be open. no one is saying sit williams,mo,carpenter,winters,enunwa,powell and forte. just don't add pieces you don't see being in their prime in 2 years. the rest will take care of itself
     
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    I agree with you. But there are people who want them to tank, which is think isn't realistic.

    But I also don't want them to add any expensive/older players to try and squeeze out a couple more wins that would only serve to hurt their development plan. What I DO expect will happen is that they hit a couple of HRs in the draft, and add a couple cost-effective/youthful FAs that upgrade the team quality, and as a result they're going to do better than 5-11. So that's going to push them farther down in the draft order, which is why I advocate for not trading down and trying to take maximum advantage of their good draft position this year.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i don't see anyone in this draft that is going to add wins to this team this year. rookies lose games more often then they don't. parcells used to say you can count on 1 loss for every rookie you start. so unless they go with cutler or romo or add glennon and he isn't the overrated back up i think he is, this team is not going to be better than 4 wins next year.
    i like watson at 6 but i don't think its happening. i think mac wants to see hack before muddying the waters with another qb drat pick.
     
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    Nice job of capturing the essence of what should be done FJ.

    Bill P had a short term view of things and that's why he could turn a team around very quickly, he brought in older FA.

    Unfortunately it's not a sustainable practice as we have seen.

    TB should be learning from what Bellicheat does and not Parcells, put a system in place with a long term approach in view, draft good football players that fit the system and move on from them a year too early and stay in front of the age and decline curve.
     
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    Hold your horses...

    I am not trying to be harsh or belabor the point but neither will be rewarded with a 2 year extension so fast LMAO..

    As a matter of fact one or both could be gone Jan 2018

    Its a well known fact TB is on the hot seat to have a better record in 2017. If they repeat this years fiasco I think it looks worse for Bowles because his piss poor coaching will be transparent having declared "we will try to win each game" That's NOT the GMs job and if MM does decent at this years draft and shows some smarts during FA HE looks better..
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Are you confusing well known fact and popular opinion or do you have link?
     
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    You do know Woody said playoffs and wins aren't required this year? If the Jets have a solid draft, young players get better and compete, don't be shocked if they get an extension.

    Keep your eyes on the media surely a good way to miss out.
     
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    Who needs the Media 101 ? I don't...

    Todd Bowles and Mac have 2018 as the last year of their contract After the "tank" year of 2017 upcoming ( not admitted to by Management) Bowles might be allowed to stay After that ,,sorry but Bowles is going to actually have to do some motivating AND coaching to stick around past 2018 SMH plese not

    BTW were you watching the same games in 2016 as I was??? ? Show me one shred of evidence where TB can manage the clock time outs game plan make adjustments at halftime etc etc

    You see the Jets really have 2 problems players (but they are rebuilding) and CS (AKA the crew of The Flying Dutchmaan)...That's why WJ needs to get a S Payton or M Holmgren to have a REAL rebuild

    JMHO
     
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    The die has already been cast for this year, so I'm just going to hope for the best, but I'm expecting the worst. I hope Bowles surprises - hell shocks! - us and shows us that he suddenly knows how to manage games, install the right system for the personnel he has, and gains control of the locker room and the team, but I don't think that will happen. If it does, great, then let's see him repeat it in 2018 and THEN I would give him a new contract, but until he proves it, he needs to be on a very short leash.
     
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    I bet we take a QB this year but not at 6...the QBs are not that deserving... so many guys will fall to 20 or lower

    That said I hope we trade down ...snag Mahomes

    There ...now you are happy..When this transpires send me a Post

    hehehe
     
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    Great points. Parcells was a turn around artist. He could get your team competitive in a season. Mac and Bowles tried that in 2015 and 2016. It didnt work. Now they are going the exact opposite way, letting go of veterans with great experience and locker room presence like Mangold. They want to get their year 0-2 guys up to speed as quickly as possible.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Like I said before, if Bowles can coach up the young players and there is progress; wins and loses will not determine if Bowles and Mac will stay unless they win no games at all or something catastrophic happens. I never said Bowles was the perfect coach, but he has developed some of the young players that have come here. He is a 2nd year coach, are you assuming a head coach in his first stint should know every aspect in terms of coaching? I would like to see if he continues to improve as a HC. young players get better, he gets better, there will be a 2 yr extension waiting for Bowles. You can guarantee that.

    Mike Holmgren ain't coaching here ... seems like you do need the media ... Holmgren was never going to come here and the daily news made you fall for it.
     
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