Leonard Williams?

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  1. wellemann

    wellemann Member

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    I see more and more mock drafts, where Leonard Williams are dropping to no. 6.
    At the same time a lot of experts are saying, that he is the best player of the draft, but apparently the needs of the first 5 teams are not DL.

    Would it make sense for the Jets to draft him? He could be no 1 on the board and BPA.

    I know we are great on the DL right now, but getting Williams would free us to possibly trade Wilkerson before next season and get a lot for him. Save the money and still be great up front.

    Is this idea totally stupid?
     
  2. Cromartie's_kid

    Cromartie's_kid Well-Known Member

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    I see where you are coming from but if we are going D it has to be linebacker. Even if we took Williams and wanted to trade Mo we can't guarantee who would would get back from Mo would help us enough in the areas we need (you can't necessarily control a trade where you can control who you draft).
     
  3. wellemann

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    I get that it impossible to predict, but...

    Say we could get the two 1st round picks from the Brown, when we get to their no 12, and Beasley or Shane Ray is there. Would you do that trade?

    Browns get Mo and we get no 12 - take Beasley and then at no 19 - we take the best OT.

    #maddentrade #nothappening #butstill #whatif?
     
  4. Red Menace

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    I believe that you can never have enough pass rushers.

    That being said, which position do the jets need to address that can provide long term benefits?

    In my opinion I would go with the pass rushing OLB, this way they can still get pressure on the QB, they get younger, and they can keep Mo around for years to come.

    However if they were playing a 4-3 defense, then yes you go with Leonard, let the front four ferociously attack the QB and let everyone else play back and enjoy the show.

    It would be nice to see, Mo, Richardson, Williams, and Coples going after the QB, with the occasional blitz from Babin, or Davis.
     
  5. cgrec

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    Definitely not a stupid idea imo. If williams were there at 6 id imagine that some team would want to trade up for him and that should be a consideration
     
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    The only way I draft Williams is if Mo is asking for a ridiculous contract. By picking Williams, the Jets would then be able to trade Mo.
     
  7. DoubleDecker87

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    Very stupid idea. Unless we are moving to a 4-3 then it doesn't make sense. And even if we did move to a 4-3 it wouldn't make sense because Coples would move from OLB to DE shaping up the D-Line of Mo,Sheldon,Snacks,Coples. If we were to get some type of crazy 2 1st's for Wilkerson then sure take him and then use the other 2 firsts on OLB and whatever else but that is not happening.
     
  8. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to our free agents next year we need to take those players with a grain of salt.

    Sure we are stacked on DL now (even with the losses of Ellis and Douzable) but if we were to assume that Wilkerson, Snacks, and Coples all walk next year I think we would find some use for Leonard Williams.

    Even if we were to lock up Wilkerson next year there would be a line around the block with teams that would accept Sheldon Richardson in a trade.

    The only position where I think we would or should pass up the best available player is corner back or maybe receiver.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    Can Williams play the 3-4 DE position? If not, then it wouldn't help us trade Wilkerson, and imo it would be stupid and a colossal waste. I don't care if he is the BPA. The Jets have spent too many #1 picks on their DL. It's time to start spreading the love around.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

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    Are you saying trade Mo and the #6 pick for Cleveland's #12 & #19? If so, hell no. We'd need more back than that.
     
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  11. NCJetsfan

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    Dude, that only makes sense with regards to the CB and DL positions, but NOT the WR position. The DL is still very strong and deep. Williams wouldn't significantly improve the team. Even if he started over Snacks, it wouldn't make that much of a difference. And we don't know that he could even play the DE spot. To even talk about taking him and trading Richardson is heresy. Conversely, adding Cooper or White at #6 could make a HUGE difference.

    If someone sitting a couple of picks behind the Jets wanted Williams, then the Jets could trade down a couple of spots, pick up an extra 3rd or 4th round pick (maybe higher if several teams were vying for Williams), and still get a great pass rusher, or they could trade lower, add a 2nd round pick and maybe more, and take their future LT then nab an OLB in the 2nd round. Taking Williams would be dumb imo.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    Not necessarily.
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    If the Jets switched to a 4-3 front, I don't think their DL would consist of those 4. Where's the pass rush coming from? They would be great against the run, but none of those guys are fast enough to play the LDE position in a 4-3.
     
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  14. James Hasty

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    Not in 2016 it isn't.

    Also, if Coples is an OLB what depth do we even have at DL now?
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    Yes it is. Coples could move to the DL if need be. TJ Barnes looked pretty good last year. Ellis may be re-signed, and one of the first FAs signed was a veteran DL. The depth will be fine on the DL. You don't draft a player at #6 for depth. In normal circumstances, a player taken that high has to start unless he's a QB. With the Jets, one could also take a Cooper or White at #6 and let him sit behind Marshall/Decker.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    In 2016 Wilkerson, Snacks and Coples are all free agents.

    How exactly are we set at DL in 2016?
     
  17. bartscott

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    Franchise Wilk, negotiate with Snacks and Coples is replaceable.

    Your welcome.
     
  18. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Do you even know what the franchise tag will cost us for Wilk?
     
  19. JDeacon

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    An arm and a fucking leg. I am expecting Wilk will be extended this spring after Mac restructures some contracts to make some money available. I pray we don't get to the point were we are using the franchise tag on Big Mo.
     
  20. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    JPP was given $14.8 mil when the Giants franchised him this year.

    Also, Wilkerson reportedly wanted more than Robert Quinn who got $57 over four years from the Rams.

    We might want to get something for him while we can.
     

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