So I figured that I would wait until after this game to do a mock and see where this team is heading. We could have obviously won or lost. We lost... in a horrible fashion. This team has no dignity and is now the laughing stock of the NFL. To say the the least, BLOW THIS SHIT UP. Tanny needs to go, Rex is nothing special and sadly needs to go, Sanchez is not the Sanchize and needs to go. Knowing this team, we will win enough games to keep us from a top draft pick, but Im going to predict a 6-10 record with the 9th overall pick. So, with this mock, Im going to go a little different route than we've seen on here and my goal will be to rebuild this offense, starting with the QB position. Trade* - We trade down to the ~24 range and pick up an extra 2nd round and 4th round pick, while giving up our 5th round pick. We just miss out on Jarvis Jones and Manti Te'O, so our best solution would be to trade back and truly rebuild our team. Gio Bernard (round 1) - This may somewhat be a controversial pick, but Gio is a playmaker and a true threat at the RB position. He is my favorite prospect in the draft, and I would love to have him on this team. He has great instincts (vision and ability to read and setup blocks) and can run in and outside the tackles. He is similar to Doug Martin... and in my opinion, could be better. Bye, bye Shonn Greene. Mike Glennon (round 2) - Say Hello to our new QB. Mike Glennon. Now, his draft stock is really hard to gauge at this point in time, but I would say this is a fair spot. He is a prototypical passer- 6'6, cannon of an arm and can make any NFL throw. He has the best arm talent in the class and has a good football IQ from what Trent Dilfer says. He isnt going to start year 1 though. Glennon is going to sit behind a Vet, learn the system and develop while taking the reigns in year 2. Larry Warford (round 2) - A massive man at 340 lbs that is quick and agile for his size. He gets to the second level well and has a good amount of experience. He made the second team ALL SEC as a sophomore and junior. Eric Fisher (round 3) - A player in WW85's mock draft; small school player with big time ability. He can mirror passrushers and has added weight to increase his ability to run block. With these two back to back OL selections, our offensive line could be solidified for the future. Quinton Patton (round 4) - A very productive, yet underrated WR. One of my favorite WR prospects. He lacks elite size and speed, but he is very quick and possesses very good body control and hands. He runs very good routes and performed well against two teams with good CB's from Texas A&M and Illinois. Brandon Jenkins (round 4) - A former 1st round prospect who ended his season with a Lisfranc injury. He has decided to enter the draft instead of redshirting and would be a great prospect in the middle rounds. Marcus Lattimore (round 6) - Formerly the top ranked RB, who we all know suffered a devastating injury. Its unclear if he will enter the draft, but I think its in his best interest. His draft stock will never be what it was and a year off with NFL doctors and trainers would do him wonders. At this point in the draft, Ill take a shot at someone with such upside since it's so hard to fine quality players. If he enters the draft, I would look for him to sit out a year on IR like Willis McGahee did and hopefully he could even be 80% of what he was. A 1-2 punch of Gio and Lattimore would be insane to say the least. Phillip Lutzenkirchen (round 7) - Another player who see's his draft stock fall due to a season ending injury. He's a good blocker and a solid pass catcher who has been hindered by poor QB play. As you can see, this draft is a complete overhaul on the offensive side. We didnt solve our linebacker problems, but you cant fill every need in one draft. We rebuild the OL, add quality weapons and draft our future at the QB position.
I liked your concept of trading down and grabbing some extra draft picks, but as many have said on this board- I don't think getting a runningback with our first pick is the best choice. Would prefer if we got some bruising offensive lineman with that first pick, and reserved one of our second round picks for a solid RB like Stepfan Taylor or (hint hint) Jawan Jamison.
I'm sold, send in an application to Woody. This is exactly what this team needs. Glennon is tricky right now, with this QB class I can see him making a Cutler like rise up the draft boards as it gets closer to draft time.
Jawan Jamison is a close second to Gio Bernard for me. I thought of a bunch of different scenarios that included Jawan in the second and maybe a passrusher in the 1st but I didnt really see value at that 1st round passrusher. Swapping Gio with Chance Warmack and Warford with Jawan would be another good scenario, though. Thanks for the response! Yeah that's the thing with Glennon, in terms of draft stock, he's extremely hard to gauge... Ive seen anywhere from a 3rd round prospect to a late 1st. When its all said and done, I wouldnt mind trading back a few picks and drafting Glennon in the 1st and a RB like Jawan Jamison in the 2nd.
Gio Bernard I will DEFINITELY take. He will instantly upgrade at RB position. As for Glennon, I've watched him play here at State. He's a great quarterback with a great arm and very good pocket awareness. Only thing is, he's not exactly mobile. He's going to need a good offensive line behind him and good weapons in front of him.
For some time now, Gio has been my favorite player in the draft. I also really like Glennon. Like a previous poster said, the dude is ugly as hell, but I will take a good ugly QB over pretty boy nacho any day. As for your other picks, I doubt we could get Fisher in the 3rd. I think he is a late first/early second round pick.
As you know I love the idea of trading down, and I'm not opposed to drafting Gio in the late first what so ever. So his selection while trading back is an excellent idea. But if we do miss out on him or decide to take a guy like Warmack or a Pass rusher, I'd be glad to take Jamison in the second, he's an absolute beast. One player I really love in your draft is Quinton Patton, I caught his giant game vs Texas A&M, he's got superb hands. I wouldn't be shocked by any means if he's a 3rd round selection. Mike Glennon is the only person I have an issue with. Not because I don't like his game or don't see what you're seeing on tape but this team isnt going to draft a QB high. Reason being is Sanchez is guaranteed the starting job next year due to his contract, it will be his last chance before he can be cut for nothing. Drafting a QB in the second to groom won't help us out next year, and while I realize you want to rebuild, I'd rather gear up the offense or defense through this draft and utilize that high pick on a difference making OLB then bring in a QB next year. Lastly, watch out for Jenkins during this draft process. If he declares, I could see him regain most of his stock and moving into the second round. Right now you're correct in putting him in the 4th, just saying that a 100% Brandon Jenkins should be able to blow up the combine /workouts.
Glennon is going in the first round and could be the first player taken. Jones and Teo are not the only defensive players in this draft. Moore from A&M leads the nation in sacks,Wingo and Montgomery are very good prospects, Lemioner from Auburn is under the radar. The biggest needs are passrusher, RB, interior OL and a QB to play in 2014 if necessary. Not likely to get all that in one draft. I know money is tight but Mike T needs an experienced guard not named, Moore, to play next to Howard.
I appreciate anyone who puts up a mock because I know its a lot of work. And I thank you for giving the board something to discuss. And I am 100% on board with any kind of trade down. I just disagree with most everyone here to spend such an early round pick on a RB. This o-line stinks, --- even Mangold and D'Brick are playing average. We need to put the horse before the cart and address the o-line sooner than the RB position. I love the Larry Warford pick later in the 2nd round - I'm a big fan myself. And even though Austin Howard makes us forget about Wayne Hunter doesnt mean the RT position has been effectively addressed. Therefore, I dont even know if picking Mike Glennon in the 2nd round is worth it either. I dont think Eric Fisher is going to make it out of round 2. I do like Lutzenkirken. Not sure about the reality of B. Jenkins and M. Lattimore though.
Shonn Greene is not a good starting NFL RB, neither is Bilal Powell. Where exactly are we going to get a good starting RB? We need to draft one. And you can't keep drafting these mid round/late round RB's hoping that they will become a diamond in the rough. Since the 2009 draft, we have drafted Greene, Powell, Ganaway, McKnight, and none of them look like a franchise RB. The strategy of taking RB's in the middle rounds is just not working. We need to draft a RB early in one of these drafts and that will take care of the RB position for year's to come.
What makes you think that Lattimore lasts to the 6th round? McGahee still went in the late first in his draft. Lattimore should go well before we're you have him if teams feel he will rebound from the injury.
See thats the thing with Glennon, he has the potential to go very high... I just dont know if he does. I think when its all said and done, he could be like a Flacco pick in the middle of round 1 (Flacco and Glennon are very similar, but Glennon is more polished). Right now, I have him at very early round 2 to late round 1. I looked at probably 10 different draft sites and whatever else I could find and I would say the average ranking was about 40ish. No one ranked him in the top 10. Im not saying Im going off rankings solely, but if you watch Glennon he still has a ways to go to being an NFL starter. He still has decision making problems, he is a statue in the pocket, lacks great pocket presence and his mechanics can break down under pressure... Now I think those can be solved if he's developed properly though. As for the other defensive prospects you names... I dont like the LSU DE's. They tend to be overrated in my opinion. I like Moore alot, but he may be better suited for 4-3 DE. Lemonier was someone I was really thinking about adding as 2nd round pick in here... I just wanted to take a different approach though. I understand what you're saying, and I knew this would be the controversial pick. I wanted to mix it up and give a different mock than we've all seen and try to give a different view point. I am a huge proponent of drafting a RB within the first 2-3 rounds, and this time around I want to get the best prospect. We have all seen what Doug Martin is doing, and thats without their starting Gaurds. I see Martin and Bernard on a similar level and wanted Doug Martin really bad last year... He got picked earlier than I expected (even though he was a top 25 talent) and the Bucs arent regretting it in the slightest. As you said we need to rebuild the OL, which is why I tried to add two quality OLmen within the first 3 rounds (although Fisher could be a riser come April and might not touch the 3rd round). Warford is a nice prospect for us in the 2nd though and would love to have him on this team next to Mangold. Brandon Jenkins was probably on pace for a late 1st, early 2nd round pick unless he had a phenomenal season... Players with injuries are hard to judge because it only takes one team to take a chance. He could blow up the combine and regain some of his stock, but being thats its only November, its hard to judge. Lattimore was a borderline 1st round pick, and now he has an injury that will most likely cause him to miss the entire season... Add onto that he tore his ACL in the other knee, and its questionable if he even plays football again, or at even an acceptable level. I think he's a late round pick simply because if I were a team I dont think I risk a mid round pick on a guy you dont even know if he can make a cut again or play at 70% of what he was or if he can he'll have problems with his knees in the near future. But like I said before, it only takes one team to take a chance.
Laxin, doug martin was my favorite player last year, how close is this guy to martin. How much does glennon weigh
I'd be super upset if the Jets waste their first pick on a running back. I'm a firm believer in drafting positions where we need to upgrade the most. And here's my list in order of most important: OL - You can't run with a bad o-line. You can't pass with a bad o-line. A solid o-line is the key to having a functionable offense. WR - We really don't have any threats. Kerley has developed well. But Holmes sucks, Hill can't catch anything, Schillens is too off and on. LB - Harris is our only LB worth keeping anymore. Scott is old and slow as hell. Everyone else is ineffective. QB - Sanchez has proven he can win games, but we need an elite QB. Sanchez will never be more than a below average QB. RB - Once we solve those other problems, we can look into getting a RB who can really break tackles and get those extra yards after contact.
finally, a mock that doesn't have us selecting fucking sam montgomery or barkevious mingo. i really like the pick of gio in the later part of the first round and then going oline. it's a great idea and would really jumpstart this offense. let's say you're mock becomes a reality and we draft all these players. what do you want the jets to do in free agency?
I think McGahee was more of a talent coming out but that's not that important. Why is important is the date that the league has evolved much, much more into a pass first league and that greatly effects the value of your current RB. In today's league a injury like that is much more costly and I highly doubt anyone reaches in this draft on that facte alone like the Broncos did.
I'm a big Gio fan, but IMO, he will be a reach at # 9. I think Gio will be a late teen early 20 pick. I would love for Bernard to be a Jet. I guess you believe Greene and Powell will be gone with the addition of Gio and Marcus? I not as high on Glennon as some, he is a prototype NFL QB, Big & Strong, his game has showed some flaws. Some really dumb throws that make me shake my head. Almost a total overhaul on offense, I'm glad you have keyed on offense. Would be an incredible draft, I doubt Rex would be coach with that draft.
