Maybe I never saw this posted originally. But, I remember a good few arguments about Kellen's pick to start us off against the Pats. The points in the argument were that Kellen's constant INT throwing were a sign of his ill fit for the NFL, and that Chad is the better option at QB. Some felt that had Kellen not thrown that pick 6, the then Chad led Jets would have had a much better chance to beat the team that would go on to go undefeated in the regular season. That point is hard to argue. One of the things I remember arguing about was about offensive live play, and whether or not Clemens had enough time to make a better decision with the football, or if he was destined to throw twice as many interceptions as TDs forever. I definitely felt that Kellen had almost no time, and it was a microcosm of the team's offensive performance under both QBs all season, and that it was unfair to point a finger at Clemens in this instance at all. There's a good chance someone has thought of this and posted it. But, I was reading through a few threads about the QB situation :breakdance: and I thought, I bet NFL.com has a replay of that play. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29409&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=REG15 Snap at 00:16, throw at 00:18. Just not enough time at all. Just lock it up or merge or throw it to the dogs if it's been posted.
Wow I forgot how close we were, if a few people made some plays it would have been different. But Chad gets the loss so I guess thats why he sucks...Blah blah blah
Yeah, I watched it to the end and I hope he does win the #1 job in Tennessee, for Young's sake. He'll have to get a lot better at throwing to make completions at all, and even when they are on the money, he probably still won't be moving the chains.
That game was ugly, two blocked punts, McCarins butter fingers, one too many Brad Smith trick plays and Leon almost broke one for a kick return. We were in that game a few plays the other way, and we stop them, anyway what happened to the 70+ points they were gonna score. They did not even come close to covering, I really cleaned up. :jets:
Has anyone ever heard any coherent explanation why Bruce Smith took so many crucial snaps at QB in that game? I really find that inexcusable, Coslet-style coaching.
Well, now that you have been kind enough not only to have posted that clip, but also to have taken the trouble to TIME the throw after the snap, perhaps Beaman and his boys will see why I still say 1.8 seconds is not enough time for Chad or Kellen. Advisedly. On to this year.
It was bone head, if you ask me, we had a way better shot at converting with Chad in there. After it worked once they should have handed the ball over to him, I was so pissed with those calls and that outcome, did not like it then, still don't like it now. It was dumb, scared coaching if you ask me.
Wait a second now... maybe if we did bring in Bruce Smith as QB, we could run even more trick plays than we have now!
VillainJoVilma's initial point is well-taken though. You can see how little time Clemens had (2 seconds). This year HAS TO BE different. Damn... Leon Washington damn-near took it all the way.
That pick 6 was a direct cause of Seymour nearly breaking Clemens' ribs. Blame Adrien Clarke too. He's the traffic cone that allowed it to happen. This is one INT I don't blame on Clemens.
I don't think anyone would disagree that our o-line led to poor QB play last season. That's not arguable. A few things about this specific play that come to mind. - It's nice to see a QB willing to stand in the pocket with a huge d-lineman barreling down on him. That takes guts and will pay dividends in the future. - While it's nice to be gutsy you also have to know when to either throw it away, tuck and run, or just take the sack. He waited too long to make a decision here - his pocket presence isn't all there yet. He will need to improve this aspect of his game and that will come with experience. - The CS should have anticipated heavy pressure in this situation. While a blitz wasn't the cause of the pressure, they should have kept TJ in to block the whole time in anticipation of the blitz. He was sent out to catch a pass instead. So I would blame Clarke first and foremost, Schottenhiemer second and Clemens third. They are all partly to blame for the pick 6.
The hardest decision an NFL QB has to make is whether or not to pull the ball down and take a safety or try to get rid of it and void the potential 9 point swing that the safety entails. The worst possible time to have to make that decision is when somebody comes free IMMEDIATELY off of the snap and you have literally no time to think about your options. Particularly when the play is coming at you from your blind side. Clemens did not make a wise decision with the ball, however I doubt very much that many other people in their first half dozen starts would have done much better. You guys who are obsessing on that play should really be obsessing about why the fuck Adrien Clarke and people not good enough to beat out Adrien Clarke were playing LG for the Jets last season. That's a much better thing to obsess about in my opinion.
