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  1. LoyalJetsFan

    LoyalJetsFan New Member

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    good defense, just look at some of the QB's that have won because of them.

    Ben roethlisberger is so freakin over-rated. But the Steelers D is very good, and his dumb non helmet wearing ass wins the super bowl.

    Trent Dilfer is a complete disgrace, and wins with the Ravens in 2000 (yes, I know its a great defense, but still, I am trying to make a point.)

    The Colts finally win with a much improved D, and Manning stopped choking.

    Right now you put Chad on the Steelers, Bears, Vikings, and prolly a few other teams, they are winning/improving.
     
  2. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Super Bowl teams are consistent:

    1) Great o-line play.
    2) Great d-line play.
    3) Clutch defense play, lots of sacks and turnovers.
    4) Tough running back play, lots of running over other teams when they are beaten and bloody.
    5) Good solid QB play.

    Chad can provide solid QB play with conditions 1-4 in place... currently I'd say we MAYBE have condition #4... that's about it.

    It's fun watching Coles and Cotchery, but WRs never won anything for anyone. Even when the Rams won the SB it was because of Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner.
     
  3. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Ben is not only not over rated he is underrated and Dilfer is still better than Chad.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Roethlisberger is legitimately a good QB now, but if you want to say he played poorly in SB40, that is certainly fair.
     
  5. LoyalJetsFan

    LoyalJetsFan New Member

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    I disagree...Ben makes many mistakes, but they are often overlooked becase of the Defense making big stops. I promise, you put Ben on the Jets, and they would be no better.
     
  6. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Roethlisberger is a great thrower of the ball. And is getting better.
     
  7. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Our D was atrocious today, part of the reason we lost.
     
  8. GreenHornet

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    Dilfer threw a pretty bad pick today at the end of the Giant game. It happens. I would definitely want Chad on the Jets over Dilfer, but it really doesn't matter; it is time to find out what we have in our young Jeti.........

    I think we should definitely trade Chad in the off-season regardless of how Clemens does. Chad would still have decent value out there on the trade block as a starting QB or an extremely very good back-up QB.
     
  9. VickBlows

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    D was not that bad when the offense was contributing. When chad went back to being chad it all went down hill.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Roethlisberger is one of the few young QB's who looks to have a good shot at a HoF career. Palmer is regressing visibly and it's quite possible that Ben will be #1 on that list by the end of the season.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Of course as I say that he throws his 2nd INT of the night
     
  12. LoyalJetsFan

    LoyalJetsFan New Member

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    It was not that bad, because we had a lead. Check the stats of our D. KENNY WATSON RUSHED FOR OVER 130 YDS AND SCORED 3 TD'S. Is this chad's fault?
     
  13. LoyalJetsFan

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    Pretty funny...but when you have a rock solid D as the Steelers do, it might not change the outcome of the game...
     

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