Just say no to Cutler

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  1. CoachTsurfing

    CoachTsurfing Banned

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    Please oh please don't let us draft Cutler with the number four pick. There are so many better players to be had at that spot. Hell, I don't really want him at all.
     
  2. 1028

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    I wouldnt really mind him if we wouldnt take him with the 4th...but taking trading up to take him with the 2nd, OVER Leinart and Young?? Cmon now...
     
  3. jets94nj

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    yea i dont see it myself happening.. y move up to take him is beyond me.. who knows tho. the others may be a bust.. remember couch..
     
  4. Serphnx

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    Because he just might be the best QB in the draft, and he could be GONE at #2. You people just don't understand the draft and how values change over time. I had originally said this weeks ago myself, but it's quickly become apparent to me that if we don't take the guy at #4, it's pretty much guaranteed someone else will take him. This is now a 4 player draft offensively: Bush, Leinart, Young and Cutler. Since QBs are a premium, you can bet theyll go quickly. There are some defensive studs as well in the draft, but no position makes a greater impact on a team than the QB. I actually honestly feel that Bush is the worst prospect out of the 4. I'm happy that someone else is taking him in the top 3 so that we're virtually guaranteed a top QB. I have a feeling we'll get stuck with Leinart though. I'm sure some of you will find that cause to celebrate, but it's personally not what I'd ideally want. The other option is probably Young. I just do not see Cutler falling to us anymore though.
     
  5. XxAlbert84xX

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    I think its smart to move up if he really is worth it. I mean new orleans wont mind and people have been saying the leinart wants no part in new orleans. so they move down 2 spots possibly get a mid rounder too and could get vince young if the titans opt for leinart, this would be something that works out good for both teams.
     
  6. Carpetbagger

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    Cutler has Kyle Boller written all over him.
     
  7. JetBlue

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    I'd rather take a chance on Drew Olson in the 3rd round than Cutler with the 4th pick.
     
  8. Long Time Jet Fan

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    Thank God none of you is the Jets GM.
     
  9. Jabba the Jet

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    JUST SAY YES to Jay Cutler ... You won't regret it

    CNNSI

    Cutler is passer worth watching

    By Jeffri Chadiha


    Of all the NFL prospects streaming into Indianapolis for this week's Scouting Combine, only one really holds my interest: Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler.

    If you follow the draft, you've heard the name by now. If you don't, you soon will. He's the little-known signal-caller who has found a place alongside Matt Leinart and Vince Young because of his big-time arm, his surprising mobility and his smarts. But I like the kid for a different reason this week. He's simply not afraid to compete.

    While Young and Leinart will do as little as possible to risk their draft stock at the combine -- reportedly neither player is going to throw this week -- Cutler will do whatever is asked of him. It's an attitude he's had for the last couple months, and I'm glad to see he hasn't lost it now, when he's become the prospect who's created more buzz than Dancing with the Stars. He's not merely passing through town to meet with teams and go home. He's in Indianapolis to prove that all the hype is legitimate. He's here to show why he has gone from an obscure name to a probable top 10 pick.

    Granted, attitude alone won't make him a better quarterback than Leinart or Young. However, it does make him a quarterback worth believing in. Throwing at the combine is supposed to be a difficult ordeal for most highly touted quarterbacks because they're throwing to unfamiliar receivers, which means their timing could suffer. They could flutter passes or struggle with their touch, all while the major decision-makers in the league are charting the proceedings. It could be a nightmare if everything goes wrong, but Cutler doesn't seem to care about that. All he's concerned with is another opportunity to bolster his status.

    This is refreshing because too many elite pro prospects, particularly those at the skill positions, now treat the combine like it's a waste of time. They show up to get weighed and measured. They interview with teams. They take their Wonderlic tests. And then they go back to wherever they train in order to prepare for their own personal workouts. It's become the popular approach to making money in the draft. The less you show in Indianapolis, the less risk you have of losing millions in April.

    That's all well and good, but I like risk-takers like Cutler. I like people who aren't afraid to gamble on themselves, because gambling creates pressure and that's when you can learn something about a player. What Cutler apparently understands is that it doesn't matter if he's performing in less than ideal circumstances this week. His entire NFL career will be played in less than ideal circumstances if he's a high pick. He'll likely be on a bad team with no hope of winning and everybody expecting the world of him. He might as well get used to elevating his game when he's uncomfortable. After all, it's not like he hasn't spent his entire career dealing with challenges.

    Vanderbilt was the only Division I school to offer Cutler a scholarship four years ago. That opportunity didn't create much joy on the field -- the Commodores won only 11 games during his career -- but Cutler wasn't the problem. He set school records for total offense, passing yards and touchdown passes and was named a team captain three seasons in a row. In his last college game he led Vanderbilt to an upset of Tennessee in Knoxville. While the world wasn't looking, Cutler transformed himself into the type of talent that NFL general managers crave.

    So it makes sense that he wouldn't run from the spotlight now. Even after producing a dazzling Senior Bowl performance that left some scouts thinking he might be the top passer in the draft, he hasn't gotten full of himself. The more people want to see him, the more he wants to show them what they missed while he was toiling for the Commodores. Unlike Leinart and Young, who have firmly established their sterling reputations by performing in big games, Cutler can't afford to rely on stats, film and buzz. He needs to continue operating as if his dream dies tomorrow. It's that approach that has taken him this far.

    That's why I can't wait to see what scouts are saying about him after this week. In fact, somebody asked me the other day if Cutler might earn some negative reviews at the combine, if he could hurt himself by throwing in this environment. I said there's no way he could damage his stock now. The kid wants to compete, and I'd bet anything he meets the challenge. At an event where players have become too concerned with blowing their futures, it's exciting to see somebody who can't wait to show how bright the next 10 years might be.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jeffri_chadiha/02/22/cutler/index.html
     
  10. MSUJet85

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    ^Clearly pro-Cutler bias
     
  11. Duk Dodgers

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    Why does everyone who doesn't like him compare him to Boller?? What do they have in common? I'm pretty neutral on the situation, but after this week it will become quite clear just how much we need a quarterback for the future, and if Jay Cutler is as good as advertised.
     
  12. CraigyB10

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    I would take him, just because he wasn't at a big school like USC or Texas, i would take him over Young and Leinart, Cutler has the full package.
     
  13. CMartinJET

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    People relate him to Boller or Losman because they were both hyped up into the first round, and in this case the real high first round. Thus far they both have been below average at what is expected according to where they were drafted
     
  14. ToddtoBarkum

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    I've been on the Cutler bandwagon since last year...his junior year. - But - in no way do I trade UP for him. That would signal a desperate move - or - a move for a team where the player they go get is the missing piece to the puzzle...... Neither of those scenarios define the state of the Jets.

    While we need a QB, and I would like to see Chad back, for competitive purposes, there are too many holes on the team to throw all the eggs in the Cutler basket.....especially by moving UP to get him. We are in NO position to lose draft picks in this draft or next years draft. In my mind movig up for ANY player would signal that we are grasping for the "straw that stirs the drink". That scenario in teams sports does not work. If it did whatever team AROD is on would ALWAYS play the Cardinals and Puljos..... Brady, Montana, Namath, Simms.....Jordan, and Bird....Gretzky, Bourque, Hasek, Brodeur... were only Champions due to the supporting staff around them and the superior coaching they received (That's the topic for another thread at another time)

    Let's please build a TEAM and not have one or two stars....My goal is not to watch the Jets in the Pro Bowl it is my wish to see them play in the Super bowl..... and TEAMS that get to the Superbowl - win the Superbowl....Just ask Elway...he finally won it when the TEAM surrounding him was put together with quality players and caoches

    Now with that said, if we stay at #4 and draft Cutler I would be OK......but, I still would not like it, assuming other teams came calling looking to trade for the chance to pick him....We could be in a position come draft day, where anonther team (i.e. Lions, Cards) are willing to part with a COUPLE of draft picks on Cutler or Leinart (if he falls) in the hope of getting their team to the playoffs next year....How could we not give up the #4 spot to move down, pick D'Brick or D';Angelo and get another one or two picks in this draft....I believe this would give us the best opportunity to build a dominant team for years to come.

    BTW. NO, NO, NO, on Leinart....IMO, does not have a NY type mentality and DEFINATELY not a Northeast type QB
     
  15. CoachTsurfing

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    I'm not comparing him to Boller. I just think we have hurt ourselves before moving up to grab a player that is going to fall to us anyways. I don't really care for him. But if we stayed at 4 and got him I would be o.k. with that. You don't think that Ten and the Saints out putting out propaganda to make us move up to get him. If our GM can't see that he is worse then Dumbway. I think Our best opition is to take a QB in the later rounds. There won't nearly be the amount of pressure on who ever gets selected to be great by the fans, the front office, or the beloved media. There are going to be some decent QB's in the later rounds that have a chance to be quality players in the NFL. Just my opinion
     
  16. MiamiJet420

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    If the guy can put it through the uprights throwing from the 50 on one knee.... then, and only then, is he to be considered another Kyle Boller. ;)
     
  17. lightning

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    Im sorry but he was NOT below average by any means.
     
  18. KY_Jetsfan

    KY_Jetsfan New Member

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    Please enlighten us on how the draft works, since you are obviously a draft guru.

    My guess is that you are just like everyone else on here, someone with a computer and an opinion...
     
  19. lightning

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    Which is just as good as yours, mine, or anyone elses. You can't kill another guys oppinion, when you have just as much credibility as he does.
     
  20. KY_Jetsfan

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    I wasn't killing his opinion. I was killing the fact that he said we don't understand the draft. Take time to read posts before you respond with a half ass statement.
     

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