Great! Joba could arguably be the best set up man in the league. I'd rather him remain in the bullpen setting up for Mo. That 1,2 punch is pretty much lights out. That is of course if Mo remains with his rythm, because last year he had a rough start.
NOOOO!!!! Joba has all the tools to be a great starter, putting him in the bullpen is going to limit him! Stupid move
I don't think I agree with this. Like dwalsh said, Joba has major league stuff to become a great starter. It's nice to see for 1 or 2 innings, but imagine it for 6 or 7 innings a start? It'd be even more nice.
and as a reliever he is only using 2 pitches primarily, so he isn't able to work on and develop his changeup or curve as much
Great. Andy will be suspended. Joba will be in the pen. We'll have a rotation of Wang, Hughes, Moose, Rasner, Igawa. I knew all the good news early on was too much too soon.
For those who are against it, read what the article says... it should make you feel a little better. In case you're feeling lazy, here it is: It's not a long-term plan... seems like it's just a way to maximize his usage during the season. And they do qualify it by saying "if all goes well." Besides... Wang, Pettitte, Hughes, Kennedy, and Moose isn't a bad rotation at all.
Stupid. Just like the Sox are stupid for keeping Papelbon in the bullpen. Unless there's something about these guys we don't know, like if they can't handle the workload. You put your best pitchers in the rotation.
Absolutely agree. Who gives a damn who is in the pen to take over for a guy if the guy starting gives up big early leads? Cappy, you're not considering the inevitable suspension Pettitte will deal with. What if we lose him for all of April? Plus, why aren't Hughes, and especially Kennedy on tight pitch counts as well? This stuff makes zero sense to me. Unless this coming season is being viewed as a wash from the start.
Your probably right, but we can't turn a blind eye on the bullpen either. I'd hate to give up more games this upcoming season because of bullpen blunders. If he becomes a starter then the Yanks should consider another set up guy who is as nasty as Joba.
I'm pretty sure the Yankees aren't going to Papelbon him even if he does start the season in the pen. The Yankees are strong believers that advancing a pitcher's innings more than about 30 a year is a major cause of arm trouble, so there's a good chance they plan to start him in the bullpen to limit his innings so that he can pitch down the stretch in the rotation.
Put Joba in the rotation until he proves he can't handle the workload. It would be a waste to make him the setup man even if it means he'll be Mo's successor, especially when he and Hughes could form a dominant 1-2 punch for the next decade.
1. Suspension not likely. 2. Even if he were to be suspended, that means it's more likely that Joba starts in the rotation. The article said that the Yanks were thinking about putting him in the pen to limit innings, assuming all is well with the rest of the rotation. They are. That Newsday article confirms this, too. Although Kennedy should be more or less all set given his workload last year. Again, guys, this seems like an non-issue. The article that caused all this hub bub specifically stated that the long-term goal was to have him in the rotation. This recent Newsday article confirms this. We're talking about a way to maximize his effectiveness for the team. What would you rather have? Joba as a starter for April-August and then shut down for the rest of the season because of an innings count? Or, worse, Joba as a starter all season long, throwing 225 innings, and turning into Mark Prior II. Or would you rather have Joba helping to stabilize the pen until May/June, and then have him as a starter through the stretch run? ETA: By the way, for all this "proving you can't handle the workload" talk... you guys do realize that the "proof" that a pitcher can't handle the workload usually shows up as shoulder surgery, right? I don't know about you, but I'll pass on that.
That's the most extreme example. Ineffectiveness as he gets deeper into the game is the more common scenario.
10P10 meets Cappy. I've been waiting for this! Anyway, yes, I want Joba healthy. If his work needs limiting, do it in June or July, when we know how we stand in terms of a playoff run. This is going to be the toughest race in many years. I want to know where we stand in terms of October before we start putting limits on when a guy can pitch. If we're out of the race in July, then he can be shut down the entire tail end of the season. Same if we're comfortably ahead.
