Let me Know how you guys think we set up across the board QB - ??? I do like our guys though Clemens, Ratliff (see what happens I like Clemens I keep thinking of Jaworski's opinion that he was the best QB of his draft year)) WR- ??? Cotchery, Stucky, Smith, Clowny, Wright, Potential but not scary, I think this is where we need the most help RB - Jones, Washington Top Tier backfield, great tandem I think we are set (maybe get some depth but we look pretty good with these two) FB - Richardson is real strong again top tier TE - Keller top tier Center - Mangold Top Tier Guard - Faneca top tier Left Tackle - Ferguson - Top tier Right Guard - Moore - pretty good, not much out there to improve our position Right Tackle - Woody - ??? No real opinion NG - Jenkins top tier DE - ?????? Gholston (possibly breakout year ???) coleman??? again this is where we need the most help on D LB - Harris ans Scott top tier CB - Revis Top tier, Shepard top tier ?? Saftey - Leonard , Smith, Rhodes Looks pretty good OLB - Pace top tier , Thomas OK All in All I think we look pretty good.
Everyone according to you is top tier, if thats the case we should win the superbowl... Ferguson is an average LT at best. Ghoulston is an OLB anyway. Keller has the weapons to be a top 3 TE in the league, but right now he is average. He needs help on his blocking. Faneca use to be top tier. He is average right now, statistically having his worst year last year. Woody is garbage. Moore is a great run blocker (best on the line) but subpar at pass blocking.
I think Ferguson gets bashed because of his draft pick I think he IS a top tier Left tackle but thats my opinion and I do think we have alot of really talented guys on this team, my problem with last year was more with the game plans, play calling and lack of adjustments during game time. Given an aggressive coach allowing our team to play to win instead of playing not to lose I think we will have a better season this coming year.......... do you really think we would have finished so sh--ty if Ryan was the head coach?
Oh no, I completly agree that we will be a good team this year. I also think Ferg' will develop into a stud LT, given another year or two, but I don't think he should be labled top tier right now. I fully believe this team can go atleast 9-7 this year, even better, and possibly make the playoffs. I think you graded players based on their EXPECTATIONS though, and not what they are right now
I think everyone on this board should make a thread about their thoughts on the team, even if they know so little that they don't know who our starting DE is. Have you heard of Shaun Ellis? So nearly everyone is 'top tier' but not Kerry Rhodes. You have no opinion on Woody?
shoot me I forgot Ellis, GHolston is a tweener and is being groomed as a OLB/DE thats one of the reasons why he is having trouble adjusting lets see what Ryan can make of him, the post wasn't written to be picked apart it was to get some opinions of how we stack up and where the biggest needs are.
For a rookie TE to have 535 yds 11.1 ypc and 3 TDs and didnt start most of the season isnt average IMHO he is only going to get better. I think you are sleeping on this guy. Also Dbrick's pass blocking has been overlooked. I think the O in this thread has been overrated but dont under value the guys you talked about. We still have question marks on O (QB and WR) but we have a lot of very good starters.
I personally expect D Keller to progress. He put up great numbers for a rookie TE and looks like he will be a GOOD player for a long time. Big expectations.
No he isn't he is being groomed as an OLB, seriously, he was a tweener in the draft thats why we picked him, sure he will rush but at this point he will not be a DE. If your going to do a position by position at least know your players or have real insight, I just wasted my morning coffee on this junk
Is Gholston a capable 4-3 DE or 3-4? Is his size sufficient to replace one of our DEs? Otherwise, I don't understand why he is listed as DE.
Brick is no way Top Tier. If you ask me, taking into consideration where he was picked, he's a bust. Realisticly, he's soilid but not steller Jenkins is Top Tier but needs another solid guy to help him out. He cannot play every down. That needs to be addressed big time. Either by getting someone else on the line that commands a double team and/or someone to rotate with him. Faneca has slipped. Not sure if i'd still call him Top Tier. Whoever winds up being the QB will just need to keep the ball out of the other teams hands. We don't need Montana. All we need is a guy who keeps his head and minimzes mistakes.
If you consider D'brick "soilid", how can you call him a bust? Sure he's not an elite tackle, but he's still a capable starter -- you can't say that for Robert Gallery, who's been moved to guard or former Bill Mike Williams, who's on his way out of the league.
I've always had a problem with "taking into consideration where he was picked" entering the equation of whether or not to judge a guy as a bust. High draft picks always have to carry around the baggage of their pick and the (sometimes, if not all the time) unrealistic expectations as a result of their pick. People get carried away with linking the numerical order of the pick as it relates to the guy's performance. No, Brick hasn't met those lofty, almost (and in most cases) unrealistic and unattainable expectations, but he's proven so far that he's a good performer, a good learner and that he's still improving, IMO. That pretty much has taken him out of the bust category for me, regardless of pick. Gholston, however, has the potential for that label if he's not careful. This is going to be a make or break year. If he doesn't start making progress and show he's learning and improving, and especially if he has a season like he had last year, then he'll be a true bust in my eyes. And yes, his draft pick will then be a compounding factor. It's one thing to be drafted high and still wind up being a good, steady, reliable, serviceable player and quite another to be drafted high and stink up the field to the point where you're not a starter anymore.
I call him a bust based on the fact that he was a #4( i think) pick and as such should be dominating, which he clearly is not.
I understand what you are saying with the "where they are picked" assesment. I also disagree. These picks are paid a certain amount of $ based on "where they are picked", therfore they should be expected to perform to a certain level.
So with that thinking, The #1 pick of the draft should be in the top 2 or 3 at his position across the league or else he is a bust ??? ... I think B'Brick is awfully close to being elite ... At very least in the VERY GOOD category ...
yep, and considering every year has been his best year (remove 07, that was unfair with Clarke next to him), he continues to get better... he is approaching the door of the elite to knock on it, but he's not knocking on it yet... that's a good player- better than solid.
